Looking for Quadro P5200 vBIOS

Hey all, you may remember me for switching a Desktop 980 core onto a 980m. Well, I am at it again, this time putting a 1080 core onto a 1070:





The card powers up but displays nothing, and is always error 43. I've been chatting with @Prema and the verdict is that Pascal cards no longer let you just change the core configuration like Maxwell cards, so the extra 512 shaders are causing a problem. This means that we need a vBIOS with all shaders enabled, and is for a GDDR5 card. This unicorn does exist with the Quadro P5200. Prema thinks he can modify this to make the card light up.

So if anyone can dump and link a Quadro P5200 vBIOS, you would be a great help! The P5200 is found in the Lenovo Thinkpad P72, MSI WT75 8SM-005, and Eurocom Tornado F7W (a rebrand of the MSI system).

I am trying to ping the Eurocom Support user here but the @(username) will not work for some reason. Are there any other resellers here that offer systems with this card that I can ping?

There is still the change that the issue is packaging is different between GDDR5X and GDDR5 Pascal cores, but both memory types have identical electrical signals, so I doubt it.

 

If you need help from Eurocom, see if after tagging woodzstack he can put you in touch with Eurocom.

 

could potentially be a bit difficult to dump the vbios of the P5200, since the quadro Px200 series apparently all lack an EEPROM chip on their boards, so the vbios is stored on the respective machine´s mobo.

really hope youll be able to get this going! subbed

 

Fresh, delicious and juicy P5200m vBIOS presented here. Credits to @song1118

Also, I need some of your advice for me here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-and-gtx-1070m-on-m6700.827595/#post-10868040

 

Quadro P5200 aka gtx 1080 cores:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-origi...7:g:F2QAAOSwTORa77mm:rk:2:pf:1&frcectupt=true

Note: Designed for used with GDDR5 not GDDR5X

 

1. as I remembered, GDDR5X has different pins as GDDR5, like physically. Not sure about the exact pin definition. But I reckon it's be different.
2. Packaging should be the same. Otherwise it won't make sense cost-wise. Also there is GDDR5X version of GTX 1060 released just prior to RTX 20 series cards.

 

GDDR5 and GDDR5X have much different physical pad arrangements, but they have identical electrical signals to the core, so I would think a core that any GP104 core can run in a GDDR5 or GDDR5X configuration. I am concerned though because I did put a GDDR5 4890 core onto a 4850m and despite several tries the memory would always be shorted out. GDDR3 and GDDR5 are drastically different electrically though.

The 1060 ti cards with GDDR5X all had cut down GP104 cores, not GP106 like a normal 1060 ti. This doesn't matter to me know since I am using a GP104 core.

Prema got me a modded vBios. I am flashing and testing it tomorrow.

 

keep us informed

 

Eagerly awaiting your results

 

Hand-wringing for the results

 

I tried the Dell and the card is not functioning. I have not tried the HP yet.

 

I think there is also a Fujitsu and a MSI P5200 atm

 

@RMSMajestic, if you can get your hands on those vbios versions as well, would be grant

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I have just tried those P5200 vBIOS on my side with the P5200 Card from HP.

Yes they are working. Just that on my M6700 I cannot boot to the system. (Probably gonna get a ASRock Deskmini GTX 1080 soon).

Opening those BIOSes in mobile pascal TDP tweaker, it is showing GTX 1070 mobile as model. suggesting a closer connection to GTX 1070 as oppose to GTX 1080?

 

That doesn’t make sense, the core is identical to that of a mobile gtx 1080, just clocked lower and paired with GDDR5 instead of GDDR5X

 

This is under development
https://wolfadvancedtechnology.com/products/mxm/wmxm-p5200-vo

 

Not sure if this is all necessary. The HP card work with adding a EEPROM chip

 

Where can you source the HP card?

 

P4200 on ebay but without eeprom chip, taobao the whole Px200 line up to the P5200 including eeprom chip soldered on. current P5200 pricing at 7000 RMB = 1046 USD = 915 EUR

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Too much....

 

um....were talking about a quadro here, so thats actually super cheap for a card that normally costs 2.5k plus its already pre-modded with the eeprom chip

Link: http://www.eurocom.com/ec/upgrade(2,452,0)TornadoF7W

 

Just an update, the HP bios also did not work. This makes me think that there is a packaging difference between GDDR5 and GDDR5X cores causing incompatibility.

If the card lives the 1080 core pull I am strongly considering trying out a P5200 core (thanks for the link Raidriar). Pascal cards are very fragile though and get eaten badly by solder flux so we'll have to see how the card looks after the core removal. There was no damage after the 1070 core removal at least.

 

good call, since the P5200 chip has the same amount of CUDA cores as the 1080 but is apparently able to handle GDDR5 looking forward to more updates!

PS: how much for a P5200 franken-card made by Khenglish?

 

Again, the marvelous taobao

 

What can't you buy from taobao?

 

A gf

 

Time to get a new gf?

 

True

 

You can even buy a waifu from taobao, let alone a gf
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21wu.10013406.0.0.658319e9U4WXzR&id=589166099992

Or you can buy a VR headset and you will have everything, check my signature

 

LOL, you guys...

lets not confirm all the typical stereotypes society has about computer nerds

 

So another update:

The card is now getting a P5200 core. Don't hold your breath for the shipment to clear customs though... Expect the core attempt to be made in 2-3 weeks.

Fun fact: Gecube and Zotac PCB material is far higher quality than what is used by MSI and Clevo. The 1070 shows no sign of BGA damage after 2 core pulls, while a Clevo or MSI board would be destroyed at this point.

 

thats really interesting! especially considering that the power delivery on the MSI cards is considered to be way more robust, but of course thats a different area than PCB quality happy to hear that your PCB is still alright.

 

Hi, I would like to know if you have any update about this swap ? the 1080 core was bad or there is a difference between these two chip ? maybe the vbios need a matching pci id ?

 

1080 core is incompatible.

I got a quadro core and tried soldering it on. Apparently higher melting temp solder than 217C was used on it and it did not wet well to the 1070 with a 217C profile. It needs to be removed and reballed but I think the 1070 pcb cannot handle another core change.

 

im hoping u have a spare pcb lying around

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Keep us informed, do you have any picture of bad pcb because of core swapping?

 

For all that is holy, subbed.

 

So in the end, did the N18E-Q5-A1 core work on the 1070 board?

 

Has anyone gotten a P5200 to work in PEG mode?

 

Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. The card does not come up. (MSI GT70 2OC, i7-4940MX, 32GB, 2TB SSD + 4TB HDD)
MSI Quadro P5200 Max-Q Vbios.

 

It will never work PEG with LVDS display end of story.

 

Yes unfortunately all pascall need optimus if you have an LVDS display or an eDP display (optimus or PEG)

 

Can you give me a 1080 Max-Q vBIOS? I would try too. My transcript and rehearsal. It would be better than nothing.

 

GTX 1080 vbios will not work, 1080 use GDDR5X memory while the P5200 use GDDR5, which are different technology (GDDR5X is more similar to GDDR6 than GDDR5).

 

Not to mention it has half the VRAM

 

Unfortunately, not good!
Everything slows down, frost, high consumption, high clock speeds.
Max-P vbios. That's all it depends on. I need a Max-Q vbios and everything is fine.

 

I did it, I just need to reduce the TDP.
I need software to reduce clocks.

 

Everything is working fine now. Everything is fine, successful, tested!
MSI GT70 2OC ...... the good vbios: P5200_HP_ZVRG1.rom I attach.
Max-P vbios is good!

 

My measurement result (3D OpenGL Stereo)



MSI WSGT70 2OCXXL (Gold Edition), i7-4940MX, DDR3L 1600Mhz 32GB, 2TB SSD + 4TB HDD + 128GB micro sd, Nvidia Quadro P5200 16GB (330W power supply)

 

I'm curious what you mean by this. I'm planning to install a P4200 into a Clevo p750dm-g. I believe it is edp and I don't believe it has optimus. Does this mean it won't work?