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    Lower PCMark05 after upgrading memory

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by philkar77, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. philkar77

    philkar77 Newbie

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    I upgraded from
    2x512 DDR2-667 5-5-5
    to
    2x1024 DD2-667 4-4-4

    and my PCMark05 score went down from 4570 to 4347.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. mtylerjr

    mtylerjr Notebook Deity

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    Was the 2Gb lower quality than the 1Gb?
     
  3. philkar77

    philkar77 Newbie

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    Well, the 2x512 came with the Dell.
    The 2x1024 is G.SKILL from Newegg.
     
  4. baddogboxer

    baddogboxer Notebook Deity

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    Swap out again to confirm and if correct just another reason some people don't trust benchmarks!
     
  5. Romanian

    Romanian Notebook Evangelist

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    There's something about Core 2 Duo and memory, something like the more memory you add the less efficient the processor is. Not sure exactly why. The only reason I know this is because I was watching some video on 80 core processors and how they only need something like 6GB RAM. Something like that.
     
  6. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Some thoughts:

    1. I have seen that range of variability in PCMark05 results during repeat runs on the same hardware.

    2. I don't think that PCMark05 has a very big memory footprint so the extra RAM will not be improving the performance during benchmarking.

    3. Is your new RAM actually 4-4-4 at 667MHz? Use the memory tab of CPU-Z to check. (It will be the first genuine CL=4 @ 667MHz notebook RAM which I have seen).

    SiSoftware Sandra includes a specific memory bandwidth test module. Run that benchmark with both RAM combinations.

    John
     
  7. philkar77

    philkar77 Newbie

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    That's some very good information. Here's the CPU-Z results.

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    I noticed the bandwidth is being reported as 333 Mhz. This is what the CPU-Z website had in their FAQ.

    I wonder if the Santa Rosa chipset is ramping down the memory, or if the manufacturer fudged the numbers?
     
  8. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    CPU-Z reports the true RAM speed (333MHz) the DDR-2 function means that it is effectively 667MHz. So you do have genuine CL=4 667MHz RAM (about time some showed up). I attach the CPU-Z result for typical CL=5 RAM.

    John
     

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  9. ldiamond

    ldiamond Notebook Evangelist

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    I suggest running the benchmark with your old ram again.
     
  10. allan_huang

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    I ran PCMark05 a couple of times, including a memory upgrade but it was always between around 2600-3000 marks. The 3000 marks was with 1GB of memory, think that was the first time.
     
  11. madi123

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    Currently your processor has 4 Mb of cashe. When you increase the memory size your cashe becomes less efficient when random access occurs. PC Mark is not a bad test, it just shows how cashe and memory size are related. Try to use SiSoft Sandra test. Your results should increase.
     
  12. tebore

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    Holy thread revival. And the info is wrong.