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    MSI GT680R 16F2 CPU Upgrade i72630QM 2nd Gen to i73920XM 3rd Gen

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by jasonnovack, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. jasonnovack

    jasonnovack Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello guy's iv'e been knee deep in the web for the last four days strait. Comparing and reading hundreds of specs for processors and my motherboard. So I can compile a list for myself to see upgrade possibilities for my MSI GT680R 16F2, witch I currently have a i7-2630QM 2nd GEN processor in. I want to install this i73920XM 3rd GEN processor in my laptop. Im not worried about the small difference of 5watts more that the 3920 uses. I put in bold letters the things I had a question about working its the same socket, would i be able to upgrade the Intel graphics 3000 to the Intel graphics 4000 with some software or bios or something. The Lithography is 22 on the 3920 instead of 32 is this a show stopper? and every thing else seems like a plug and play if some one could print this out and compare for me I could really use the opinions of my piers on this thank you.

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    I7-2630QM 2nd GEN/Socket FCPGA988 Specs From Intel

    Status Launched
    Launch Date Q1'11
    Processor Number i7-2630QM
    # of Cores 4
    # of Threads 8
    Clock Speed 2 GHz
    Max Turbo Frequency 2.9 GHz
    Intel® Smart Cache 6 MB
    Bus/Core Ratio 20
    DMI 5 GT/s
    Instruction Set 64-bit
    Instruction Set Extensions AVX
    Embedded Options Available No
    Lithography 32 nm
    Max TDP 45 W
    Datasheet Url Link
    Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type) 16 GB
    Memory Types DDR3-1066/1333
    # of Memory Channels 2
    Max Memory Bandwidth 21.3 GB/s
    ECC Memory Supported No
    Graphics Specifications
    Processor Graphics Intel® HD Graphics 3000
    Graphics Base Frequency 650 MHz
    Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency 1.1 GHz
    Graphics Output eDP/DP/HDMI/SDVO/CRT
    Intel® Quick Sync Video Yes
    Intel® InTru™ 3D Technology Yes
    Intel® Insider™ Yes
    Intel® Wireless Display Yes
    Intel® Flexible Display Interface (Intel® FDI) Yes
    Intel® Clear Video HD Technology Yes
    Dual Display Capable Yes
    Macrovision* License Required No
    # of Displays Supported 2
    Expansion Options
    PCI Express Revision 2.0
    PCI Express Configurations 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4
    # of PCI Express Ports 1
    Package Specifications
    TJUNCTION 100 C
    Package Size 37.5mm x 37.5 (rPGA998)
    Graphics and IMC Lithography 32 nm
    Sockets Supported FCPGA988
    Low Halogen Options Available See MDDS
    Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0
    Intel® vPro Technology No
    Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology Yes
    Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) Yes
    Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed No
    Intel® Trusted Execution Technology No
    AES New Instructions Yes
    Intel® 64 Yes
    Intel® Anti-Theft Technology Yes
    Intel® My WiFi Technology Yes
    4G WiMAX Wireless Technology Yes
    Idle States Yes
    Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology Yes
    Intel® Demand Based Switching No
    Thermal Monitoring Technologies Yes
    Intel® Fast Memory Access Yes
    Intel® Flex Memory Access Yes
    Execute Disable Bit Yes
    Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables Yes
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    I7-3920XM 3rd GEN/Socket FCPGA988 Specs From Intel

    Status Launched
    Launch Date Q2'12
    Processor Number i7-3920XM
    # of Cores 4
    # of Threads 8
    Clock Speed 2.9 GHz
    Max Turbo Frequency 3.8 GHz
    Intel® Smart Cache 8 MB
    Bus/Core Ratio 29
    DMI 5 GT/s
    Instruction Set 64-bit
    Instruction Set Extensions AVX
    Embedded Options Available No
    Lithography 22 nm
    Max TDP 55 W
    Datasheet Url Link
    Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type) 32 GB
    Memory Types DDR3/L/-RS 1333/1600
    # of Memory Channels 2
    Max Memory Bandwidth 25.6 GB/s
    ECC Memory Supported No
    Processor Graphics Intel® HD Graphics 4000
    Graphics Base Frequency 650 MHz
    Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency 1.3 GHz
    Graphics Output eDP/DP/HDMI/SDVO/CRT
    Intel® Quick Sync Video Yes
    Intel® InTru™ 3D Technology Yes
    Intel® Insider™ Yes
    Intel® Wireless Display Yes
    Intel® Flexible Display Interface (Intel® FDI) Yes
    Intel® Clear Video HD Technology Yes
    Dual Display Capable Yes
    # of Displays Supported 3
    Expansion Options
    PCI Express Revision 3.0
    PCI Express Configurations 1x16, 2x8, 1x8 2x4
    # of PCI Express Ports 1
    Max CPU Configuration 1
    TJUNCTION 105 C
    Package Size 37.5 x 37.5mm (rPGA988B)
    Graphics and IMC Lithography 22 nm
    Sockets Supported FCPGA988
    Low Halogen Options Available See MDDS
    Advanced Technologies
    Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0
    Intel® vPro Technology Yes
    Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology Yes
    Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT- Yes
    Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT- Yes
    Intel® Virtualization Technology for Di Yes
    Intel® Trusted Execution Technology Yes
    AES New Instructions Yes
    Intel® 64 Yes
    Intel® Anti-Theft Technology Yes
    Intel® My WiFi Technology Yes
    4G WiMAX Wireless Technology Yes
    Idle States Yes
    Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology Yes
    Intel® Demand Based Switching No
    Thermal Monitoring Technologies Yes
    Intel® Fast Memory Access Yes
    Execute Disable Bit Yes
    Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables Yes
    __________________________________________________________
     
  2. msdrahcir

    msdrahcir Newbie

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    seems like a huge waste of a thousand bucks, you could just sell your laptop and get a new one if you have that need for speed. However, looks like it should work. Your only concern should be about bios compatibility. I can't find specific information about your laptop, but if you post your bios and version, one could probably google it and see if this newfangled processor is supported.
     
  3. tilleroftheearth

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    Yeah; too much money for too much (possible) risk for too little return vs. just simply selling your current system and getting a new platform - complete with warranty.

    (With regards to IG 3000 vs. IG 4000 - that is hardware built into the cpu die... you need a third gen i7 to get IG 4000...).

    Good luck.
     
  4. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    the show stopper is that you cant put a ivy cpu in a sb mobo, but the other way around is possible, and the 16f2 was launched using a 6 series chipset, thus sb only cpus are available for it.

    You can look on ebay for some 2920xm, they are far cheaper now
     
  5. jasonnovack

    jasonnovack Notebook Enthusiast

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    thank you for the feed back guy's. A friend showed me a small program witch popped up all my info. I found I have a HM67 chip set after the research the best thing I could put in this machine is a i7-2960xm thanks for the patients. I'm on the leaning curve trying to catch up to all of you, with all this flashing this, and bios that, upgrade hear and upgrade there. I probably should of paid more attention when I bought my first computer a (IBM Clone 386sx/512KB RAM/40MB 4500rpm HHD/AND 56K modem/ with VGA) ;)
     
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    386SX...

    Good times, good times. :)
     
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    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    depending on what you do a gpu upgrade would be a far better option, and I would check the 2920xm, due to the lower price
     
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    your right on the processor as far as price. and i have a gtx 580m in hand that im working on installing that will be a major improvement, the i7 2630 that came with it only supports 1066, and 1333 ram speeds so i mainly want to get at least to a i7 2720 processor min. on intels site it shows that processor supporting 1600 witch i have 16 GB of 1600 in it since i bought it but its only been running at 1333. see the dalema.
     
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    Unless something changes, you probably won't be able to take advantage of the unlocked multipliers in the 16F2.
     
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    jasonnovack Notebook Enthusiast

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    RAM problem solved for me i picked up a i7-2820QM for pretty cheap this CPU supports up to 32GB of 1066/1333/1600mhz DDR3 and Then i upgraded to win7 Ultimate now it shows ram speed at 1600mhz and i do notice a bit of a difference. one solution down many to follow.
     
  11. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The 2630qm should support 1600mhz ram.
    At least that is what I had when my 2630qm was in my P750.
    Now that I took it out and replaced it with the b960 my ram went down to 1333mhz.


    All you will need is to flash an unlocked bios and change the ram setting to 1600.
     
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    I don't think so?

    Intel's spec's are 1333 max.

    See:
    Intel® Core
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Search the forum and see for yourself ;)

    The default is 1333. But with a modded bios you can change that to 1600 and it will work 100%.

    Intel probably writes 1333 because most notebooks don't have that option in the bios to change ram the frequency.

    I had to hardcode that value into my bios.
    But with the Gt680 you can flash the unlocked bios and easily switch between speeds.
     
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    Thanks, hmmm....

    I thought the cpu determined the RAM speeds? Not the MB BIOS.

    Live and learn, I guess.

    Oh, when set to 1600 - does it really change the performance (even in benchmarks) or is it simply ignored by the cpu?
     
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    I didn't do any benchmarks, I just flashed the bios and checked the speed with cpuz.

    And I do believe the CPU can determine the ram speed. But in this case the CPU supports 1600.
    I don't have a clue why it defaults to 1333.

    Pretty sure if I flashed my modded bios now with my pentium b960, it will probably not work at 1600.
    But I don't want to try it because then I would have to put the 2630qm back inside just to flash back to stock.
     
  16. Karamazovmm

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    the cpu is the one that determines the speed. Since the memory controller is in there. But the deal here is that all quads do support 1600mhz, since the chips are essentially the same, just the binning that makes them different.