Manufacturers and SSD

Anyone have a clue as to when manufacturers such as my favorite HP would be selling/producing their notebooks with the SSD drives?...I predict not until next year when the Calpella CPU platform from Intel launches which supports SSD...not that the SSD's won't work in laptops as of now but i think thats when they will be coming out of the woodworks and into the consumer's homes. I orginally planned to get my hands on the Montevina platform but most likely those SSD's won't be available with it...so i guess i have alot more time to wait and save up until i can actually customize my next laptop with an SSD drive.

And also i've been reading some stuff about write cycles being limited somewhat with SSD's. Is this just blowing Hot Air?. Is it that big of a deal? How does the life expectancy compare to the typical SATA HDD.

Any input or comments would be greatly appreciated. I know much ppl might not know too much about the SSDs except for Les!

 

An SSD will work in any laptop with a SATA or Ide interface. I have two SSD's in my T61 and the MLC 120 gb supertalent in my HP NC8430. The limited rights is fixed with using Wear Leveling. http://corsairmemory.com/_faq/FAQ_flash_drive_wear_leveling.pdf.

 

Well tks jedi for answering the bottom part of my quest. . But what i'm running from is having to buy the SSD separately and then install it in my notebook. I want to be able to get my notebook online and customize it with the SSD drive...that's y i asked if anyone knows or have a clue when manufacturers like HP would start selling their notebooks with SSDs as an option. Either way i don't suspect it to be until next yr. anyway...And i think by that time i would get more bang for the buck...because honestly...as bad as i want an SSD..i don't plan to pay $600 for a 120GB...maybe for 300GB but not 120.

 

They have already started selling notebooks equipped with SSDs, but only the 2510p and 2710p series.

 

I know Lenovo and dell have an option to use a SSD when you order a notebook from them but the price of the notebook increase to 500 or more. I'm sure later this year HP will start releasing notebooks with a SSD option.

 

OMG $789 for a 64GB SSD...It makes me wanna cry! :cry:

EDIT: Is it just me or are these SSDs just unfairly overpriced?...ah mean this Flash type technology has been out for some time now..its not like its brand spanking new technology here.

 

Compared to the 1,8" 4200rpm drive, it makes me wanna pay...

 

It's just you. You're trying to get in too early for your adoption.

And the technology is changing all the time, the old Flash could barely breach 50/50MB/s, and now we're talking about current drives shipping 120/100 and drives by the fall at 200/180. It just takes time, and with intel and Samsung dedicating more resources to the task prices will come down. Supertalent predicts 128GB for under $299 by the end of the year.

Also remember that price tag you have is nothing. Not too long ago it cost about that much for fast (still only 10-20MB/s) 1GB CF cards.

 

ok GreatApe....I do plan to wait til' next yr. to purchase my next notebook so I have plenty of time to save and plenty of time for those darn prices to be reasonable. And you don't have to say it...I know...Performance Costs!

 

It will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.

SSD is a disruptive technology, possibly as disruptive as the tech field has seen in the last decade or so. For a long time, mass storage has been pretty much dominated by a small cadre of magnetic media manufacturers. The IP is locked up so tight, it's hard to imagine a startup coming out of nowhere with a higher capacity or higher performance hard drive... it's alll the same old WD, Seagate, Hitachi, etc.

In comes SSD, with every indication that will eventually meet or beat traditional hard drives in every measure that counts, within the next couple of years. And it's being peddled by an entirely new set of companies! This means all the relationship building between storage vendors and hardware OEMs has to be rethought. HP needs to answer questions like "who in the SSD universe am I going to get into bed with, and what does this technology do to my product line and competitive position?" In the storage field, these are questions most of the big OEMs have not had to ask for some time now. At least, not in the way they have to now.

To be honest, EMC was the first I personally noticed to get in bed with SSD, by offering SSD on their high-end Symmetrix storage. I'm pleased to see Dell and Lenovo offering relatively mainstream SSD in the last few months. I think this will force the rest of the mainstream manufacturers to pick a SSD solution in the next six months for most of their premium, lightweight and workstation products. But I don't think they're going to push it very hard for a while. People buy big numbers, which is why Intel did so well for a while with those crazy gigahertz battles even though their processers (at the time) weren't particularly cool nor efficient. Same goes for capacity... 320GB is a much cooler number than 64GB and it's hard to quantify the performance of SSD whereas capacity is a very easy thing to wrap one's mind around.

I think the great turning point will be when SSDs start to stream 200MB/sec reads. Then you'll see Dell saying "3x faster!" by the SSD option in its online selector and people who buy the things with big numbers will start to like SSD. And when that happens, the OEMs will market the crap out of solid state storage, and SSD will replace magnetic HDs as the dominant mobile storage format in the span of 9 months--assuming those who hawk it can keep up with demand.

To me the big question is, who starts buying the existing HD makers when their market share starts to tank?

 

Well thanks for ur response swiego..that was a mouthful. Am just hoping that HP goes in bed with MTron, because from what i've seen their read/write speeds are the best.