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    Maximum SATA RAID bandwidth of HM57 chipset

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by ozbimmer, Apr 28, 2010.

  1. ozbimmer

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    Hi,

    I would like to ask for your help. What's the maximum theoretical/real-life SATA RAID bandwidth of the HM57 chipset?

    Thanks in advance.

    OzB
     
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    Maximum real-world bandwidth on a single SATA 2 channel is just under 300MB/s.
     
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    Thanks. So in a 2 drives RAID-0 setup the max bandwidth would be just under 600MB/s? Is a 4 drives setup equal to 1,200MB/s? Is there an upper limit?

    I understand HM57 uses Intel Rapid Storage Technology for RAID (software one). What are the pros and cons of a software RAID?

    TIA
     
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    your questions would probably be better answered by reading the white papers available at intel.com.
     
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    In this case of software/hardware RAID the only difference is that the processor does the work and not a RAID chipset, not to be confused with RAID done entirely in software with no hardware support. Each SATA port operates independently and has available the full bandwidth, so yes, it would stack like that. The limiting factors are the amount of SATA ports, bandwidth between the chipset and the processor and memory, and limitations of the controller in handling that much work load. RAID 0 scales very well up to 4 fast SSD's, but beyond that I'm not sure, at least on chipset integrated solutions.
     
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    I see. I note the link between HM57 chipset and the processor is a 10Gb/s bidirectional conduit called DMI ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Media_Interface). So if each SATA channel in a RAID array can support up to 300MB/s then the optimal number of drive in a RAID-0 setup would be 4.17 (10Gb/8/300MB). Do you think it's a reasonable guess?
     
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    nope.

    the only reasonable guess is what Intel has documented.
     
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    Possibly due to my poor search/google skills I couldn't find the HM57 chipset whitepaper at intel.com. I would appreciate if you could give me a hint re where to find it. TIA
     
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    I have read the same documents. Where did you find such information re RAID 0?
     
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    Sorry found it.

    5.16.6

    RAID Level 0 performance scaling up to 4 drives, enabling higher throughput for data intensive applications such as video editing.

    But why only up to 4 drives? What's keeping RAID-0 from using all 6 SATA channels?
     
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    just curious; which laptop are you looking at that uses the hm57 chipset in raid mode?
     
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    It's the VAIO Z.
     
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    you do know that raid 0 really means raid-nothing, yes?
     
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    You mean redundancy? Yes I know.