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    Memory MHZ and CPU question

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by KillWonder, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. KillWonder

    KillWonder Notebook Evangelist

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    Would i notice these improvements if the other was in for gaming and/or desktop activities?

    8Gb DDR3 1333Mhz vs ditto but 1600Mhz

    Intel i7-3630QM 2,4 vs Intel i7-4700MQ 2,4
     
  2. homank76

    homank76 Alienware/Dell Enthusiast

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    Really not going to notice any difference in the memory unless you jump up to 1866Mhz and even than it might be futile. As for the processor, the newest one will win by a very very small margin. If you can get the older one for a real good price I would just go that route and save some cash.
     
  3. HTWingNut

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    If you're gaming with an integrated GPU like an Intel HD 4600 then yes. Otherwise it won't matter a bit.
     
  4. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Absolutely no tangible difference.
     
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    The 4700 will run much hotter.
     
  6. tilleroftheearth

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    I don't know what the other answers are based on, but:

    Any SNB i7 processor will be dragged down with 1333 MHz RAM. Get 1600 MHz modules or Higher (even if the MB/BIOS doesn't allow higher speeds - the Sodimms will be down clocked to the highest setting the platform will allow, and... it will use the lowest latency possible too).

    Asking between IB and Haswell platforms is a little tricky: but my answer: always get the most current/powerful platform you can afford (always).

    Haswell will be quicker (about 10%) on average (depending on workload), run cooler (for the same amount of work done) and have much greater battery life at idle and/or less demanding usage patterns. With all these benefits, even $150 more for the Haswell based system is worth it to me (as I'll be enjoying those benefits for the life of the system... at least 3 and more likely 4-5 years).

    Both 'better' options will give you a more responsive system (even when simply navigating the O/S) - especially if you'll be adding an SSD (now or in the future).


    Will this be seen in a gaming scenario? Who knows (it depends on the game in question)...

    Will the difference be seen/appreciated? I say Yes! Especially as time goes by (and the system/OS/programs get bogged down with the monthly updates (and the games get more complex with each release).


    Hope this helps.

    Good luck.
     
  7. homank76

    homank76 Alienware/Dell Enthusiast

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    Never mind....
     
  8. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Proof please.
     
  9. Jarhead

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    While Intel officially specs SB CPUs at 1333MHz, plenty of SB motherboards support 1600MHz, 1866MHz, etc. But, even disregarding that, how would 1333MHz "drag down" a SB processor for gaming on any human-noticeable level?

    Anyway, my two cents is that it doesn't really matter which of the two options you choose from each option set OP. 1333Mhz or 1600Mhz memory, or the i7-3630QM vs i7-4700MQ. Perhaps with the two processors, you might see a single-digit fps difference between the two, but I wouldn't really call that noticeable to your average person. Yes, the human eye can physically see at maybe around 1000fps (if this is true: "Eyes Can Only See at 40 fps" -- The myth - Forums - World of Warcraft), but I hardly believe that all but the most OCD can tell the difference in a few fps once you get above 30-40fps or so.
     
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    I have used them, and there's not a lick of difference in gaming, with a dGPU or with an iGPU since 1333 MHz to 1600 MHz is such a small increase. Now if we're talking 1333 MHz to 2133 MHz, the difference with an iGPU would be more pronounced. Same thing with IVB to Haswell, the difference in games is something on the order of 0-5%, and not enough to offset the increased heat and power consumption of Haswell. I was just curious what experiences you've had that would lead you to your conclusion.
     
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    For the same load/time (work) completed Haswell uses less power and produces less heat in (my) real work workloads.

    Up to 5% increase in gaming may not be significant to you - but you should let the OP decide for him/herself?

    With the RAM... like I said... you disagreed with the link I provided.


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  13. maverick1989

    maverick1989 Notebook Deity

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    Today's processors enjoy a 85-90% hit rate in L1. A 1333 to 1600 difference is not going to be noticeable at all.

    Like octiceps said, if you are comparing 1066 or 1333 with 2133, that is a different story and even then, you would benefit a lot more by purchasing better components more related to your workload (better GPU for gaming/rendering, better cpu for running multithreaded processes not yet supported in CUDA/OpenCL, etc.).