Mobile Skylake launching September 2015

Benchlife, a very reliable chinese leaker, have posted launch months and product names of upcoming mobile Skylake.

Starting in September we will get i7 6820HK, i7 6700HQ, i5 6300HQ and i3 6100H.
Moving on to October, i7 6920HQ, i7 6820HQ and i5 6440HQ will follow.




And mobile will finally get Xeon processors from Skylake:
E3 1535M and E3 1505M

From a different source:

 

Interesting, are they finally making quad core mobile i5s? And is that HK supposed to be unlocked???

 

Same question...

 

Well, maybe I'll have a reason to upgrade then. I've kinda been itching for a new notebook, but so far there's nothing that's a worthy successor to my M6700. It'll be interesting to see what those Xeon mobiles will turn out to be and the price tag that comes with it...

 

It could be the Iris-holding CPU line. Just a guess seeing as the HK was after the 6820 and not 6920... yet?

 

What are the CPU speeds though? What about the Extreme Edition ones also?

 

Ultimate mobile workstation stats... mmm, drooling over a mobile platform like no other with all the right connectors, inputs and standards.

ECC DDR4 RAM. 40Gbps Thunderbolt. Active Stylus options. M.2 x4 PCIe Gen3 ports. Power and USB Type C connectors. HDMI 2.0.

Now, give us a half dozen (selectively) of each of the above and 'Ultimate' may just be a worthy name of such a platform in late 2015...

Can't wait.

 

Nice post, these release dates are very exciting if true!

So if the H naming convention denotes quad-core - then the i3-6100H is a quad? Mobile i3 and i5 quads, what do you know ...

 

Personally, I'm hoping to see Dell releasing a M3900 that would address some of the minor flaws I saw in the M3800.

 

Pretty sure H denotes standard TDP BGA. Q stands for quad core.

 

Mobile Xeon sounds interesting. Thanks

 

That seems right. I got confused by the marketing slide that says "Quad-Core H Processors".

Marketers get everybody ...

 

Yeah, Intel's marketing gets more confusing with every generation. At some point even the marketers give up and come up with new branding. I think the Core i brand is overdue for an overhaul.

Seems like they're killing off socketed CPUs for real this time.

 

Oh you haven't heard?

 

At least they give quad i5. That would be selling zombook with irreplaceable dual core CPU in 2015.
I guess mobile i5 will be with 4 cores but without Hyperthreading as in Desktops.

And yeah, mobile i5 being Quad still will be 35/37W. Throttling on the way!

 

What are the CPU speeds though? What about the Extreme Edition ones also?

 

I remember a commotion about it back when people were talking about Broadwell, but with Broadwell launch botched it sort of fell off of my radar.

At least the Xeon part is still socketed though. Probably they introduced the Xeon branding to provide a clean separation between PGA/BGA. From the chart it doesn't seem like the Xeons are -E parts.

 

Makes sense. Headed to the mobile workstations. Boy, would they be EXPENSIVE!

 

Oh boy. My CPU guide is going to need an overhaul...

No Q, no quadcore. No idea what that HK is supposed to be, but if it follows the TDP-locked trend of the HQ chips and is "unlocked", then it'll be so pointless it'll be the laughingstock of my CPU guide for as long as I live.

Apparently, the "H" once stood for "high graphics" which is supposedly iris pro. But in reality it simply means BGA.

 

It's really bizarre that there is an i7-6820HK and then an i7-6820HQ. I suspect the creator of the table simply made a mistake.

 

HK could be unlocked. And priced at 1k as their new "extreme" option.

 

I'm really really not sorry, but a $1000 CPU that's soldered to the board of some thin laptop is... well... no.

 

If its TDP unlocked, it will sell.

 

Exactly what machine would use it though? Unless Clevo redesigns their P6xxSx series for skylake and gives the GPU the single fan and the CPU the double fan and makes them all 230W bricks with 330W expansions, it'll be pointless. MSI's *NEVER* had full unlocked TDP for their CPUs, even with their MQ chip line... unless you're named Dufus. ASUS never bothered with unlocked chips in the past and probably won't now.

Maybe Alienware might do it? I don't know.

 

The mobile Xeons are BGA too. "Best-in-Class CPU Performance with Quad-Core H Processors." Socketed mobile CPUs are done.

 

xxxx H means High performance. Chips with high TDP but could be dual as well as quad.
xxxx HQ means High performance Quad core. Chips with high TDP but only quads.

xxxxHK, who knows. Desktop K-chips are unlocked and since all previous HQ chips have been lacking the unlocked performance/support xxxxXM chips had, I`m thinking xxxxHK is unlocked BGA chips equal to XM chips. Although I dont support BGA it will be nice if they atleast follow through with unlocked CPUs to play with. Just remember not to kill them with overclocking, that will be VERY expensive this time

 

But wouldn't it make more sense to do that with the i7-6920? An HQ version of the latter is also in the table.

 

Maybe H K means that you can OC +4 bins? That makes sense: Intel cripples performance in average consumer CPU and may sell it for $$ while keeping 45W TDP.

 

That isn't even it. "HQ" according to intel means "High Graphics". I'm not even joking. The "H" means absolutely nothing but the fact that it's soldered to the board, in practice. The i5-4200M and i5-4200H are examples of this. No Q means no quadcore, but both in the mobile market.

 

Intel is HUGE company with many departmants and that is the reason you may see some BS in official specs. For example you can google what is Dual Mode for RAM. Intel claims it is mode where there are equal size on both channels. And Flex Mode is when there are different size where equal will work at dual speed and another left part will work on Single.

However apparently it is wrong! Intel calls Flex Mode situation... only where there is just 2 RAM sticks. And if you have 3 RAM sticks (2+2+2 in 4 slots) where 2 sticks will work in dual and 1 stick will work in single (which essentially is like Flex) Intel still calls Dual Mode! Asymmetric Dual Mode! Just for marketing! And it doesn't matter that this contradicts their official statement that Dual mode = Equal size on each channel.

In fact there is even Assymetric Non-Synchronized (different frequency) Hybrid (when user mistakenly puts all or 80% of RAM to channel A when he can split it better) Dual Mode! For Marketing. It changes almost nothing in terms of performance for notebook but it breaks naming logic.
Intel now has a tough debate and discussion inside about how to simplify or clarify the situation.

 

The Xeon SKUs are E3-1535M v5 and E3-1505M v5, so they have the M suffix. If D2 Ultima is correct about H vs M then it appears that the Xeons will still be socketed.

According to Intel's documentation, the HQ suffix means high performance graphics. But it's easy enough to find and HQ processor without Iris graphics, or an H-only suffix which isn't even documented. There's also ULV chips that have Iris, so yeah I think D2 is right. H/M have unofficially become the dividing line between BGA/PGA for full power mobile parts.

But who really knows anymore. Intel's proximity to wine country is clearly taking its toll on their marketing.

 

what about cpu QM,MQ like about i7-6xxxQM or i7-6xxxMQ ???

 

Socketed mobile CPUs are dead breh

 

Good to see do not need to wait too much longer for i5-6200U, hope it does not mean just an extra 100MHz on CPU side, but also a good clock to clock performance increase.

 

Yes, if that schedule is correct then we don't have to wait until early or mid 2016 to get the skylake-h mobile cpu's (which is what I read somewhere). We get those specs that you mentioned above plus maybe 3K/4K screens as a option on 17 inch notebooks.

 

Yup so excited for Q4 2015... I might get a new notebook and hopefully there are some AMD GPUs by then too

 

same hoping for a reason to update skylake + amd new HBM gpus might motivate me. Was hoping for some battery tech breakthrough also...

also curious skylake iris pro perf

 

Why did you downgrade from your Sager BTW? Your new machine is going to make you want to upgrade like now

 

Quad core mobile i5 chips is interesting. Looking forward to seeing performance increases

 

Where? I don't see any.
I see it in the table now. Didn't see it before. But that table likely has errors in it. It *IS* about time we got an actual i5 in the mobile lineup though. Maybe shove some low power non-hyperthreading, TDP-locked CPUs in the thin laptops, instead of the i7s they've proven unable to cool (though I still think that they should delegate ULV chips to those notebooks only, I'm being "nice" right this minute).

 

The Skylake laptops shown off at Computex were such a tease.

And I hope the mobile chipset supports Thunderbolt 3 (I didn't think I'd ever say those words). Intel predicts around 30 desktops, laptops, and tablets in 2015 will have it...which is not a big number.

People keep talking about using Thunderbolt (or USB type-C) for charging...which is OK, but I don't like the idea of always losing an I/O port whenever I want to charge my laptop.

 

Won't matter if they simply add an extra port to charge with and remove the normal power port. For example: 3 USB slots + charging port, or 4 USB slots and use one USB slot to charge. You won't actually be "losing" anything, and when not charging you'd have an extra port.

That being said I don't think USB-C can provide enough power for higher powered notebooks, so it may be delegated to thinner machines.

 

You can always add more ports with a hub or a dock. Even better is if the hub/dock can also provide power. Some people hate the idea of adding a hub, but personally I find it quite nice to be able to plug in multiple peripherals at the same time with a single cable.

And this is where the awesomeness of USB-C (and thunderbolt) comes in. Since the cable can support multiple types of signals you can have a single cable that provides power, external video out, audio, ethernet, external drives, mouse/keyboard, and other peripherals. It's an actual workable consumer docking solution.

 

Of course that's the logical thing to do. But will OEMs do it? Or will they make a boneheaded move like always (like making devices thinner instead of increasing the battery size)? I'm afraid they will just keep the standard 3 USB ports and enable one of them for high-power charging.

It supports up to 100W, so it should suffice for all but the highest power notebooks (just those with beefy dedicated graphics, really). However, I've heard concerns that it'll need a unique cable: not any USB type-C cable can use 100W.

And, realistically, how many USB type-C ports are we expecting? My ideal configuration would be three type-C and one type-A. While the world transitions to type-C, I'll just carry a type-A -> type-C adapter if I ever need to plug in two USB type-A things.

Right, hubs are a nice alternative and that does somewhat placate me, too. It'd be great just to have a little break-out box with VGA, DisplayPort, HDMI, ethernet, a few USB, etc. Turn that portable machine into a little desktop replacement....with just one simple cable!

 

I read that also and your correct that is not a big number. I wonder if they mean 30 desktops, laptops and tablets as a combined total??
or 30 desktops, 30 laptops and 30 tablest? (which would be better specifically the 30 laptops). Unfortunately I think they mean it as a combined total 30.

Also, I wonder which 30? as in OEM's? I assume it would be high-end devices. Its only a prediction though so maybe there will be more? probably not though if anything less then 30.

 

But with mobile Broadwell just out last week isn't that a bit weird? Only 3 months gap... I thought it was usually 6.

 

Mobile Broadwell came out in September 2014 (the Core M-5Y models). Broadwell Core i7 "U" models arrived in January 2015. The stuff from last week is... strange. The Core i7-5700HQ comes almost exactly 2 years after the Core i7-4700HQ and has very little to show for this long development time. Also, Intel is not pushing it very hard -- there weren't any of the usual review units sent to major sites or announcements of major manufacturers using them (Apple's new MacBook Pro is still using Haswell!). I still think we'll see Skylake sooner rather than later.

 

What could be similar to the GT4e as for today's GPU?

Enviado desde mi Nexus 5

 

Broadwell was delayed so much it's a joke. It was supposed to be out a year ago.
Sandy Bridge: Jan 2011
Ivy Bridge: Sept 2012
Haswell: June 2013
Broadwell: Q2 2014 ---pushed back---> Q4 2014 || -Y (5W, extremely low power, aka Core M) chips launched ---pushed back---> Q1 2015 || -ULV (Ultra low voltage/power) chips launched ---> Q2 2015 desktop/mobile mainstream chips launched.
Skylake: Q3 2015 (probably august/september)

Intel got nothing worthwhile out of broadwell, and basically wants to pretend it doesn't exist. The entire line is neutered for mainstream as well; only I think two desktop chips (maybe four; one locked and one unlocked variant of each chip). Skylake is Intel's next desired arch, but we don't know if it's 5% faster than broadwell or if its IPC is the same as broadwell (5-10% faster than haswell). As for now, it's a wild card, but buying a broadwell notebook isn't any kind of big deal as far as I can tell. IF they adjust the power limits that'd be fine, but if not, then as far as we know broadwell draws more power and runs hotter than haswell, so it's basically a failure for mobile mainstream chips.

 

Intel want milking the market along with Win 10. They are too late with Skylake for the same purpose.