Montevina DDR II

Hi guys!

In preparing for the interstellar prices of the delayed Montevina platform, and of DDR3 memory, will I be able to buy fit it with decent, cheap DDR2 - 800 memory?

thanks

 

Hi yes according to wikipedia you can DDR2 800 is compatible

 

But it depends on the laptop. Make sure of that before buying it...

 

It's only on Wikipedia that I saw support for DDR2 on the Montevina platform. The versions of Montevina advertised by Eurocom and PCMicroworks have no option for fitting DDR2. Only 1-8 GB of DDR3.

Eleron, how can it depend on the laptop? Santa Rosa is the same platform in an HP, Lenovo, a.s.o.

I don't suppose anybody has a Montevina , and check if he can put DDR2 now?

 

The chipset can support DDR2 or DDR3; however, most OEM's will be fitting boards with DDR3.

 

So, I can pop the laptop up, remove the DDR3, put my DDR2 in it and roll on!
Thanks - that's all I need to know.

 

lol why would you wanna take out the DDR3 ram?

 

I'm hoping they will stick 1 GB of DDR3 in there, or NO ram at all.

It's too expensive for my pockets. It'd rather have 4 gb of cheap, decent - speed ddr2, than 2 gb of fast, expensive ddr3. I don't think an OS cares what type of ram you are running. It will still eat it up. - yummy yummy -

 

ddr3 800 is worse than ddr2 800 in terms of performance.

 

I don't believe it works like that. OEMs will usually only put one type into their Montevina laptop - either DDR3 or DDR2 SODIMMs. They aren't interchangeable, just like you cannot use DDR2 SODIMMs in a DDR SODIMM slot.

 

@sgogeta : Oh bloody f**k! It means we will just have to wait and see.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the OEMs decide which sockets to put in, i.e. either DDR3 or DDR2. I could be wrong, though.

 

DDR3 has a slightly different slot than DDR2 on desktops, I'm willing to bet its the same for laptops.

The green slots are DDR3, notice the notch is in a different position? That prevents DDR2 modules from being inserted.

 

Very well then. If every manufacturer decides to include DDR3 on Montevina platforms, people will still have the opportunity to buy Santa Rosa, which I suspect will be much cheaper.

 

So-Dimm DDR2 is 200pins, and DDR3 is 204pins.....

 

Due to space constraints and expense on most notebooks, I hightly doubt there will be very many combo units available.

 

so are we expecting most oems to be b*****ds and use expensive ddr3?

 

You cannot use DDR2 and DDR3 in the same slot, as kal mentioned they have different pin counts.

What you are likely to see is vendors pick one or the other, I doubt anyone would install both, and it will likely depend alot on the 'value' level of the laptop.

Entry level likely starts with DDR2, high end with DDR3.

 

Based on what I've seen, I'd say DDR3 will be standard.

 

Everyone says that DDR3 will be terribly expensive, but was that not the case when DDR2 was first appearing. With RAM, the cheapest will be what is the most popular. DDR memory used to be dirt cheap, but now the price has skyrocketed, because production has dropped off. It won't take very long for DDR3 to become affordable, but as of right now, of course it is expensive, because almost nobody uses it.

Greg

 

According to the Kingston site, while for form factor will remain the same, DDR3 will have an additional 4 pins and keyed differently, mean they are not interchangeable within the same slot.

With Montevina, it's up to the notebook/mobo makers to decide which type of RAM to support. I suspect it's technically possible to have 2 of each type of slot but the likelihood of any notebook/mobo maker willing to do that is low.