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    My Horrible Experence Overclocking my Laptop

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by chinmonkie, May 31, 2008.

  1. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    Here is the Story of how I miserably failed in overclocking my T7200 with my current knowledge.

    So after reading I could overclock my cpu via clockgen via this tutorial http://forums1.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25716 I decided to follow the steps promptly. First I disengaged all my current voltages for stock. Then I ran clockgen, excited that the program would run I decided to continue and go to the PLL setup to see if it could read my clocks. So far so good, it could read my clocks with CY28346 so i continued to raise it to a mere 100 mhz and it crashed. So i restarted my pc and tried to push it 10mhz and it would still crash. So after being fustrated for a bit i used setFSB and I tried to see if it could read my FSB.. saddly going down the whole list i didnt not find a single profile that would read it. All in all failure.

    If anyone could help me out that would be awesome
     
  2. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    y do u want to oc your cpu.

    gpu i understand in a laptop but y the cpu
     
  3. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    To get to the other side.
     
  4. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    because i find that my old AMD 3200+ is more powerfull then my C2D outside of benchmarks.. =(
    that and i want to learn lol i guess i am just nerding my way through and see what my laptops full potential is
     
  5. Pascal_TTH

    Pascal_TTH Notebook Geek

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    :eek: Even Houdini can't do that ! Check your laptop is not on power saving mode...
     
  6. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    even the old amds (when they were better than intel) cant stand up to a c2d.
    what power saving programs do you have.

    my 1.5ghz c2d can outperform my 2.8ghz p4 with hyperthreading and is slitly above to the 2.8ghz pentuim dual core

    what benchmarks are you using
     
  7. Leon

    Leon Notebook Deity

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    (Turns down clocks just a little bit)
     
  8. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    I am pretty sure its not on battery mode.. but thanks but seriously when i do a boot up race between my C2D and my 3200+ my 3200+ beats it every time. And i find the 3200+ is more responsive.. I scrubed and used a customed XP SP3 cd with all the crap removed and it feels sluggish..
     
  9. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    Its not common for a laptop to be overclockable.
    The only laptops I have ever seen to be able to overclock, are the pentium M's whichcould be pinmodded, and the ati/nvidia chipsets.
    I have not seen any santa rosa based laptops which had overclocking abilities.

    If you want, I can give you the contacts of a guy I know at Cypress technologies.
    You can probably talk to him about hardwiring the pll chip to increase fsb, but that requires skill and could destroy teh motherboard.

    Send me a PM if you want his contact

    However, I think your problem is the 1gb of ram and the 120gb drive, (if it is 4200 or 5400rpm)
    You can upgrade to 2 or more gb of memory for very cheap, so I recommend upgrading to at least 2Gb.
    AS for the harddrive, if your drive is doing less than 30mb/sec on average, I suggest getting a faster harddrive. That will help increase the speed of your system dramatically since the fastest mobile drives can do about 55mb/sec average.

    K-TRON
     
  10. mirage_bg

    mirage_bg Notebook Deity

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    umm...I'll pretend that I didn't hear anything...
     

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  11. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    Wow, that is a pretty nice overclock
    First time I have seen a successful santa rosa overclock.

    K-TRON
     
  12. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    did you find the right clock generator for your chipset on FSB?

    Im currently on a intel celeron M 1.4ghz OC'd to 1.6ghz with SetFSB
     
  13. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    I went through them all.. on SETFSB .. and I am not on santa rosa platform T7200.. all Santa Rosa CPUS are odd numbers like T7300. My motherboard is I945PM And I upgraded my Ram to 2 Gigs since its max the hard drive isn't the bottleneck i am pretty sure.
     
  14. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    what are you trying to compare it to
    what benckmarks
    i still dont see your cpu being crap
     
  15. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    um it just operates really slow, it couldn be throttle but i am not sure. It takes like 44 seconds to boot. Opening office 2007 like it hangs for like 4 seconds before its usable and then anything office is okay. Sometimes when i click the start button it has to take its time before it pops up. I recently did a multi core test to see how fas my cpu was processing and it was slower then a C2D 1.83 .. like did everything die after SP3 ?
     
  16. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    so u have xp install i presume

    i kno this was asked earlier but go to
    start
    control panel
    power option
    select desktop and apply
    and it is normal to take 4 seconds to open up office 07
    boot depends on you hdd fragmentation
    and xp still doesnt use multicore effeintly like vista
     
  17. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    After Sp3 the Xp kernel was upgraded to an identical vista kernel so in essence they process the same. RMClock takes care of the profiles the current profile i am using for performance on demand is custom but i will try the Home office configuration just to cover my basis ;)
     
  18. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    I have not studied up on SP3 but what little I have heard upgrading at this point well might have issues. The symptoms you describe really sound like HDD issues. When you go to start Office is your HDD light going crazy? If so HDD, CPU will likely have little to no effect. I do not think RAM is your issue. Comparing boot up times in general is not a CPU issue? I mean it is not like it is a CPU stress test just to start a computer. It really is a HDD issue, how about you tell us more about both of you HDD's? Oh but I am all for you OC'ing but don't think it will improve your current issues.
     
  19. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    standard 120 hitachi 5400 rpm drive o.o;; that came with the laptop
     
  20. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    You know booting time can cause by many other factors other than the CPU. You can't just say that's a faster machine just because it booted up faster.
     
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    unknowntt Notebook Evangelist

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    Your 120 GB 5400 RPM drive is slowing down boot times, not your CPU. Upgrade your hard drive and RAM!!! I've got a 1.5 GHz Core 2 Duo and it runs blazing fast for what I do, but having a faster HDD would help me out a lot (I've only got a 160 GB 5400 RPM).
     
  22. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    um doing calculations like multi core benchmark like my performance droped from 32 to like 40
     
  23. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    so i was wondering can anyone tell me what fsb board i need for setfsb thanks
     
  24. mas5acre

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    Have You done the following lately?

    1. Defragmented your hard drive
    2. Ran a virus scan
    3. Adware scan
    4. Spyware Scan
    5. Preformed a disk cleanup.
    6 Cleaned the Registry
    7. Monitored temps, the processor could be underclocking to cool itself if it is running too hot.
    8. Tried to tweak your operating system/ minimize your operating system install?
    DH TuneXP is great for tweaking XP for performance, or nlite for XP or vlite for vista to delete parts of the os u wouldnt use. Bootvis for Xp is microsoft made and can shorten boot times.
    9. Have u disabled things that run the background at startup? I dont let itunes and other junk that are installed launch little helper programs at startup I hate programs that launch stuff at startup, I like a faster boot time. I know theres a way to edit startup stuff in XP but I use the freeware tool, Startrun.
    10. Have u uninstalled all the trial/useless stuff your pc came preloaded with?
    i.e. Did u uninstall all the crapware?
    11. Are u plugged in, when comparing this to a desktop?
    12. Another thing u could do if u really wanted is do a clean install of your OS.


    Its not about speed, its about efficientcy.
     
  25. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    I defrag my harddrive every single time i install a new program
    avast is always on
    adware/spyware scan like every 3 days
    CCleaner runs before shutdown always
    my CPU runs a cool 52 i undervolted a 1 year ago almost ;)
    i used tunexp and already defrag boot files also with every program install
    i am using a custom version of windows xp pro which i removed everything i dont need this includes drivers, useless program, services, total cd is only 250mb with nlite with all the optimization features


    i just want to know how to inrease my FSB from 664 to 700mhz x.x and i need to know the clock controler for my laptop

    but thank you for your advice ;)
     
  26. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    If your 3200+ ouperforms your core 2 you've got something screwy in the works, perhaps you over customized your xp cd or you have a bad driver or component somewhere in the works, if thats the case, an OC wont really help you unless your lap is cold.
     
  27. chinmonkie

    chinmonkie Notebook Evangelist

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    I figured it was the hard drive on my desktop and that it was loading times that was driving me insane. But I personaly never thought that a 5400 rpm was slow..