My laptop memory ??

Hi, I wish to increase the memory of my laptop.

I have a ...

Saterllite L 40-14N laptop with two sticks of 520 mb 2x16 PC2,

does the memory support 4G, not 2G (max) as it says on the Toshiba website?

Can I use DDR2 in this machine?

Thanks for your attention

 

You have DDR2 in the notebook so yes you can use DDR2. Here is a link to Crucial.

The official on max memory supported is 2GB. But many I believe have found that that was only because 2GB SO-DIMM's were not common when Toshiba spec'd.

Your chipset is GL960 and that does support 4GB but make sure no other hardware limitation.

 

I would try 2 x 1 GB sticks unless you want to experiment with 2 GB sticks. Find a good store/retailers that will accept back sticks with 100% refund and no restocking fee. Maybe a BIOS limitation.

 

... or just any store in the EU (apart from UK)
Return without questions asked within 14 days of purchase.

I would try 2x2 and return them if the laptop does not recognize them as 4GB. (of course 64 bit OS as pre-condition for using more than ~3,15GB)

 

Why apart from the UK? Should be covered under the Distance Selling regs afaik, if you order them online.

 

Exactly this! UK - only if you order online.
Rest of EU - no distance, no mistance ---> buy + not happy = bring back within 14 days + full refund.

 

Entirely fair - if you've bought it in a shop, you have had a chance to have a look at it, so you only have a statutory right of return if it's defective or damaged or whatever.

I'm surprised the rest of the EU is any different though, most of that consumer type legislation tends to be the same.

 

Contact a vendor of DDR Ram close buy and best price and give them your notebook make and model number,they'll tell you what you can run,,that way if theres a compatiblability issue its on them and they have to make it right.

Cheers
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Can't agree. So I buy a 2000 bucks laptop from a shop and am supposed to evaluate every aspect of it within 10 minutes in the shop? Go back home and 2 days later realize this is not the screen quality I expected, the color is not the same under different light, the keyboard is noisy, the FAN is spinning all the time and I just don't like it but can't return it!??
So much about customer protection in UK.... Dealer protection to be more specific.

And ram - so I'm supposed to try it out in the shop is that right? Would anyone let me do that?? Go to the shop with the laptop, unpack the ram and try it out there!?? Come on...

One example from my experience - bought a digital camera which I thought would perfectly suit my needs, the pictures looked nice on the camera screen in the market. Went back home - turned out the quality of the pictures when seen on a computer screen is way below my expectation - went back to the store 3 days later, returned the camera with no questions asked and got full refund. This is fair.

In the rest of EU you also get min 2 years warranty on laptops and electronics generally (with some exceptions such as nEtbooks, printers and second hand, which have min 1 year)

But let's not go offtopic, just answered your question what I meant with "apart from UK". UK has very different customer protective laws than the rest of the EU.

 

So you expect any shop that sells anything to effectively let you take any of their products home for two weeks to decide whether you like them, and have to take them back without charging you anything, or you having to give any reason? You realise how much of a hit they take when they can't then sell the item as brand new?

Things like a noisy keyboard or constantly running fan would come under 'not fit for purpose' & similar sections of the Sale of Goods Act 1979 in the UK. Similarly with the 1 year/2 year warranty thing: it can be argued that if you spent £1000 on a laptop it can be reasonably to expected to last for several years. I think that the reason the UK government didn't bring in the specific EU directive re. 2 year warranties was for exactly this reason.

That is demonstrably untrue.

 

That's why you go into a store, check it out, then order it online!

In the UK it's a slight grey area, but my wife's phone was out of warrenty but got a free replacement because she was on a 2 year contract, ergo she should expect the phone to last 2 years.

 

Yes I do expect that I either get what I expect to get for my money OR get my money back no matter if purchased online or from a store. This also forces stores to only sell qualitative products and no cheap crap that 80% would return back. Which also forces Manufacturers to ensure quality, as otherwise trading companies return the merchandise back to the manufacturer.
So yes - this regulation is in everyone's interest.

ASAIK this regulation is valid for all EU countries (and has been for a very long time) except UK. I'm sure about this for at least 5-6 countries, including south/eastern countries. 1 year warranty on a XXXX € worth laptop is a joke too.

Would never buy electronics from UK.

Exactly this you don't need to do in the rest of EU - buy wherever you want - you can always return it within 2 weeks (no need to send back, pay shipment and await. Give back - get back. Simple and easy.


But again - we are going offtopic here. I think the op got the idea behind my post.

 

You would have no problem returning it if there was something wrong with it. That is not the issue. That was not what I was talking about. You said that you wanted to be able to return it with no questions asked - that is something entirely different.

And again, the manufacturers claim a one year warranty, but this would not stand up under the Sale of Goods Act 1979. As I also stated in my post.

Please go back and read all of what I wrote, rather than cherry picking little tiny bits and making the rest up to support whatever point you're trying to make.

 

I gave you an example with a digital camera - the camera was fine, I just expected more for the money paid - or in other words - I realized it was highly overpriced and I don't want it and need something better. This you can't determine for 10 minutes at the store though. So why should this be at my cost!? Camera is back, so was my money. If more people do that - Mediamarkt stops selling the crappy cameras and returns them to the manufacturer. He on the other end thinks twice next time before trying make quick profit from crappy products. In this time my money went/goes to the manufacturer that truly deserves it. Fairness - this is all this regulation guarantees. You are offered the opportunity to always get the best for your money! I work hard for my money - why should manufacturers not do the same? I fair competition needs to be ensured and not profit from advertised crap only.

It has all been discussed already in other threads. The conclusion (not only mine) was - customer protective laws in UK are very limited, unclear and very often - not helping at all compared to the rest of the EU. Customers are very often left alone to deal with corporations and corporate lawyers. A clause lost before being born.

Last post from my on this topic here.

 

If the camera failed to do something that the advertising or the shop told you it would, then you could take it back. If you hadn't bothered to read the specifications or ascertain that it had the functionality required, or check the relative prices of the product in other shops, caveat emptor I'm afraid.

Following your logic, I'm going to watch a few games of rugby over the weekend. I don't have an especially big television, so should I be able to go and get myself a 60" plasma, watch the games in glorious high definition, and then return the TV on Monday for a full refund on the basis that although the product functions absolutely fine I had some unspecified dislike of it? Sounds like a good way of getting a loan of any product I want for free, maybe I should move to the continent.

My last post on the topic as well, I can't be bothered to have another of these circular arguments with you.

 

You should move to NA. Company like Costco here allows you to return a used TV after 1+ years, no question ask. They are not doing it because of legislation, but to maximize profit.

What kind of marketing message do you think that would bring them ? What would be the equivalent marketing dollars they need to spend ?

There is a reason why things(say electronics) in Europe are in general more expensive.

 

Well that's actually less true nowadays... even very often the opposite. The financial crisis hit USA much stronger than Europe... Some products are still a bit cheaper but others are much more expensive...

My opinion is that small electronics (like RAM) tends to be cheaper in US whereas bigger/more expensive stuff are generally cheaper in EU.

 

Can you give some examples ? I don't think the financial crisis has anything to do with price level, in general.

 

Costco does that in UK as well, no questions asked even after 3yrs!!!

 

Not a member, but Costco in Canada dropped that kind of return privilege to 6 months or less (unless they changed it back again...).

 

Don't agree.
Almost all electronic items are way more cheaper in the US than in the EU. Compare iPads, iPods, high end laptops, cameras, camcorders etc and all cost more when you convert Pounds/Euros into US Dollars.

 

Except your opinions have no value when there is no evidence to show for it. Sometimes I wonder what world you're living in.