My laptop's GPU

Hi everyone!
After 4 years of going strong, I've decided to try and sell my Toshiba Satellite P500-16F. Anyway, as I'm getting ready to do so, I'm trying to collect as much information as I can. So one thing that was bothering me, is the GPU integrated or not? If it's not could someone take a look and see if it could be upgraded (CPU also) and to which GPU (and CPU)? The integrated question is for my selling info, and the upgrades models is purely out of curriosity. Thanks!

Motherboard
Manufacturer TOSHIBA
Model SATELLITE P500 (CPU 1)
Version PSPGSE-00X00SY4
Chipset Vendor Intel
Chipset Model Havendale/Clarkdale Host Bridge
Chipset Revision 12
Southbridge Vendor Intel
Southbridge Model HM55
Southbridge Revision 06

BIOS
Brand TOSHIBA
Version 2.00
Date 10.2.2010.
PCI Data
Slot PCI
Slot Type PCI
Slot Usage Unknown
Bus Width Unknown
Slot Designation PCI Express Slot J6C2
Slot Number 0


NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Model GeForce GT 330M
GPU GT216
Device ID 10DE-0A29
Revision A3
Subvendor Toshiba (1179)
Current Performance Level Level 2
Current GPU Clock 405 MHz
Current Memory Clock 324 MHz
Current Shader Clock 810 MHz
Voltage 0,850 V
Technology 40 nm
Die Size 100 mm²
Release Date 2009
DirectX Support 10.1
OpenGL Support 4.1
Bus Interface PCI Express x16
Driver version 9.18.13.697
BIOS Version 70.16.39.00.12
ROPs 8
Shaders 48 unified
Physical Memory 1024 MB
Virtual Memory 2752 MB

Intel Core i5
Cores 2
Threads 4
Name Intel Core i5
Code Name Arrandale
Package Socket 989 rPGA
Technology 32nm
Specification Intel Core i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Family 6
Extended Family 6
Model 5
Extended Model 25
Stepping 2
Revision C2
Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, Intel 64, NX, VMX
Virtualization Supported, Enabled
Hyperthreading Supported, Enabled
Bus Speed 133,0 MHz
Rated Bus Speed 2394,3 MHz
Stock Core Speed 2266 MHz
Stock Bus Speed 133 MHz


All of this info is copied from Piriform Speccy.

 

Not integrated. It's dedicated. But any recent IGP will well outperform the 330m.

CPU is PGA which means it should be able to be updated as long as the system BIOS supports it.

What resolution and type is the LCD?

I'd say $200 or so is fair asking price.

 

This laptop seems like it came out in late 09, early 2010, i would assume the 330m is similar to the 240m, and in 2009, the 240m was a midrange/lower end gpu. I'd say at the most, you'd get 250.00 for this laptop

 

the 300m series was a new arch, different from the 200m

the 330m was a good enough mid range gpu for the day, but now is very outdated as HT said

 

is it MXM or soldered on?

Wrong. it is a rebranded GT 240m with slightly higher clocks.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-240M.17654.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-330M.22437.0.html

look at my signature. if it is soldered on you should see if you can get higher clocks because mine is handling modern games.

 

you are right my apologies

 

I'm not sure who's talking to who anymore

But yeah, I'm not asking about the price I should set for the laptop, I saw weaker P500 used models than this one going for around 500-900$ only a few months ago. The price of my laptop was 2000$ 3 years ago, and considering other prices, I was hoping to get at least 600$, and a few people who are into PCs waaay more than I am appraised it at 600-700$. (I'm from Croatia, so prices are higher on most things).

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone here could tell me if the GPU could be replaced? I was just wondering, it still runs every game that comes out (haven't tried Crysis 3 though), but any other newer bigger title I tried worked. And most of the games worked at higher than all low settings.

@cdoublejj how can I know if it is soldered? I mean, is there a way without opening the housing?

 

I've been trying to find a picture of the motherboard for your particular model and I haven't been able to find one. The mobos for Satellitle P500 I've seen don't seem to have a MXM connector, so I'd venture it is soldered like most notebooks available on the market these days.

 

Thing is, even a last gen iGPU is more powerful than that GPU, and any upgrade, even if possible, wouldn't be economical. It's unrealistic to ask for 600 for it, as you can get new laptops with more power for less money. Croatian prices are higher than the US, but it is still in Europe, so prices aren't ridiculous as you can import from Germany or wherever.

 

I believe the only MXM slot gpus from the 200 series was the 260m and above.

 

I dont remember either seeing any 330m in the mxm format, outside that its really not worth it

 

Yeah, this is a "made for Adriatic region" model. There's really not much info about the entire machine online whatsoever.

I understand what you're trying to say, but I could easily find 10 or more Croatian adds with similar specs, or lower that go for that kind of money (I'll talk in HRK from now on, just to be able to be more precise). USD is currently around 5.8HRK, as I said, only a few months back there were lower P500 models (without BR disc drive and so on) were selling (most of the adds say "sold") for 3000-5000HRK. That's about 500-800USD. There was a model with i7 for 7000HRK (slightly over 1000USD). And it really is ridiculous, stores over here have huge margins! One example I can provide, when USD was down at almost 4HRK a few years back, a simple wah pedal cost over 500$ in Croatia. I got my uncle buy it in USA when he went there for 125USD. Brand new, and it was even a better model.
Now the thing is, although we are in the EU for a month and a half now, people over here rarely import stuff. Problem before was lousy customs service, high taxes and customs and it didn't really pay off. Even though it should be better now, people are still not used to that fact. I could easily make more money than a foreign shop for a better and new laptop. That's just how it is. Like you said, it's unrealistic but that's just the case. I've had a few friends who sold stuff regularly over the adds, sometimes they really needed to sell their stuff quickly and they lowered the price a lot. They always got a few phone calls and e-mails of people threatening them because they were underpricing their items. People actually sell stuff to earn money, not only to get rid of the old and make some money for the new stuff they want to buy.
AS I said, i got my laptop appraised. Not by experts, true, but by people who know how the second hand market works right now. All of the appraisals were at 600-700$. There was one, just one, at 500$. And that was when I messed up and figured my laptop was 4 years old (I mixed the years a bit, it happens often to me )
I could be completely fair and put it down for 500$ tops (considering all the above), but I won't do that because a couple of reasons.
First, I don't NEED to sell it. But it's been 3 years and I would like a desktop cause I don't really use laptops as what they are. And for that kind of money I could get a whole lot better desktop right now. Buying a new laptop in Croatia would get me nowhere when talking about better specs. I could get similar or lower quality new laptop for that money, and since I don't NEED a new machine, I really don't want to invest a pile of money on top of what I get for this one.
Second reason is that although it's an older laptop, its main use was multimedia. It still does the job perfectly to this day. And although it's not made for gaming, it still runs every game (Skyrim mid-high, Far Cry 3 mid with better resolution, every Mass Effect on med-high, I'm running Planetside 2 on low 20-110 FPS, 20 when there's around 100 players on a small area... which is pretty good for such an unoptimised game... and so on). I also use it for AutoCAD and the 18.4" screen is amazing for that! My family, starting with my dad, has been using nothing but notebooks for over a decade now, we never sold a single laptop, and never had one die. My brother still has my old 6 year old Toshiba and it still works like a charm. We take care of them and they last us a long time. The condition of my Toshiba is almost as good as when it was new. I tried prime95 for an hour yesterday, it never got hotter than 80% with fan speed never getting over 70%. And I watched a streaming football match at the same time and had one of my CAD drawings opened in the background. I never reinstalled Windows on it and after turning it on, the laptop is completely operational in 15-20 seconds.
Third reason is the most selfish one, I know, but its a reason never the less. If I put it at 500$, I'll probably end up selling it at 400$. If I put it at 250, I'd get 200 or less. People would buy anything here, as long as they can lower the price. In order to get above that lowest appraised 500$, I'll need to put on a price of 700$, maybe a few bucks more (4500HRK), and then drop it to 550-600$. I still know it's an older laptop and that the guarantee is no more valid and it's a risk to buy an old laptop... if I hold on to it, I'm sure it will last me another 3 years minimum. I really don't want to be someone's "I bought this so cheap" story seeing that I don't NEED to sell it. If they end up ruinning it in a year... well' that's not my problem anymore.

I think this explains the price
I went a bit off-topic and wrote a lot of stuff but I can't help it sometimes, I want to get my point across as preciselly as I can. I don't know where you're from, but things really are not so normal here half a year ago, I bought my old guitar back. I sold it two years ago, I was the first owner, and after a year and a half I was the 7th owner again. It changed another 5 people in a year and a half. That's a guy every 3 and a half months

 

You don't need to convince us, you need to convince the buyer. Good luck.

 

Haha well I know, but as I said, I have problems controling my explaining, especially in English... I'm sure there's a lot easier and shorter way to write all that And it's not convincing, it's more like explaining the situation

 

If someone will buy it for that price, all the better for you. The market does seem mad in Croatia, although I wonder how long that will last given the access to the EU market. I certainly have no problem buying stuff from elsewhere in the EU if it's a lot cheaper.

 

After a day in the adds I got an offer for 2000kn (around 300$) without papers and 3500kn (cca 600$) if I manage to find papers which my dad misplaced somewhere.
That was the only offer so far though, and I don't wanna loose almost half the money cause I can't find the papers. So yeah, pretty mad market

Anyway, another oppotunity presented itself, one in which I could buy a desktop without selling my Toshiba (an option I really like, since as I've said, I have no real reason to sell it, and would prefer to hold on to it if possible), I have another quesiton. One that might be an easy one, but I have a few problems with it. I currently have 4 GB RAM DDR3 @ 532MHz. Now, it can be upgraded to 8 GB, but I'm not sure about the speed. How do I check which RAM speed I can have? Or does it matter at all as long as the new RAM is DDR3? I know that if I put faster RAM alongside this one, they will both work at lower speed, so it's only natural to get brand new 8 GB, so the speed thing is the only problem for me?

 

Try CPU-z or the Crucial system scanner. It should tell you what you have. Alternatively the model should marked on the RAM sticks.

 

Well I have 4GB DDR3 532MHz. I already know that (checked it)
Now if I want to put another 4GB in to reach the max 8GB, are PCs/laptops somehow limited on the MHz? Or could I put in any speed in as long as it's DDR3?

 

its called double data rate for a reason, multiply by 2x

but in the end it doesn't really matter, its a single stick? i doubt it. you are going to need to buy either 2x 4gb sticks or just 1 8gb, thus giving you respectively 8gb or 10gb