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    NEWS : Smash old hard drives for total data security, says Which?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Tinderbox (UK), Jan 8, 2009.

  1. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Smash old hard drives for total data security, says Which?

    People disposing of their old computers could easily fall victim to identity theft - even if they delete files or wipe the hard drive, warns Which? Computing.

    Which? says criminals are trawling council tips and internet auction sites for PCs, and then recovering deleted data with the help of specialist software.

    This information could be used to make a fraudulent credit card application, order a new phone, or even apply for a copy of a birth certificate, said Which?

    As part of a report, Which? Computing bought eight second-hand hard drives from auction site eBay, and found that they still held information that could be confidential.

    Using free software downloaded from the internet, Which? was easily able to recover 22,000 "deleted" files, including images, music files and spreadsheets.

    The importance of disposing of data correctly is highlighted by the case of Alexander Skipwith, a Which? Computing reader from London.

    He was told by an IT firm that his faulty hard drive would be wiped of personal information before being sent back to the manufacturer.

    He subsequently had family pictures, bank statements and more "held to ransom" by a man in Latvia, who sent Skipwith one of his personal photos to show he meant business.

    Skipwith finally agreed a £100 fee plus expenses for the return of his information, but such data could be worth more than that, said Which?, as industry estimates say the average UK citizen is potentially worth £85,000 to an identity fraudster.

    Which? Computing suggests a non-technical solution to the problem. If you want to be absolutely sure your files are deleted, remove the hard drive from your PC and destroy it with a hammer.

    Sarah Kidner, Editor of Which? Computing said, "PCs contain more valuable personal information than ever as people increasingly shop online, use social networking sites and take digital photos.

    "Even if you delete your files, you would be surprised how easy it is to recover your personal data. Such information could bring identity thieves a hefty payday. It sounds extreme, but the only way to be 100% safe is to smash your hard drive into smithereens."

    But Which?'s advice has been slammed by Kevin Moreau, general manager at data back-up firm Acronis.

    He said, "Smashing hard drives to destroy data is expensive, environmentally damaging and completely unnecessary."

    He says, "The Which? study glosses over the fact that there are ultra-effective disk cleansing solutions available to the consumer, some of which have been approved by, and are used by, government defence agencies as well as Fortune 500 companies around the world."

    However, as organisations have found to their cost in the past, those responsible for wiping data from redundant equipment do not always do it.

    Last year, for instance, Kirklees council in West Yorkshire found that its whole network was vulnerable after someone was able to buy an old council server on eBay which had all the council's network connection settings still loaded onto it.

    The council had failed to wipe the data before recycling the hardware, and the eBay buyer was able to automatically connect to the council's virtual private network.

    http://www.computerweekly.com/Artic...-hard-drives-for-total-data-security-says.htm
     
  2. Ayle

    Ayle Trailblazer

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    Smashing a hard drive doesn't protect anything, somebody could still read data of the shards, now grinding it to dust... THAT would work :D
     
  3. Duct Tape Dude

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    I've heard if you keep your hard drive well lubricated with plenty of oil inside it will be more secure.
     
  4. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    some people are just screwed up.
    When I find computers on the street, I salvage the harddrives, wipe them clean,
    install linux on them, test to see that they work, and install them back into the computer which I donate to the service league.

    K-TRON
     
  5. Full-English

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    I've bought a second hand HDD from ebay before and the person who supposedly deleted and made the drive ready for me made a complete hash of it. Basically everything was still on the HDD, os, personal data the lot, I think they must have used windows format. So i used killdisk on it as I have absolutley no need for anyone elses files or whatever. I suppose I should have sent it back to them in hindsight as Killdisk won't completely get rid of the data.
     
  6. Baserk

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    Active@KillDisk and DBAN are more than sufficient to erase a HDD.

    To read from a heavily damaged platter or to retrieve data after a proper erasing method from the 2 linked programs has been used, a Magnetic Force Scanning Tunneling Microscope is needed to make images of the platter.
    Then the terabytes of information from those images have to be processed which takes months if not years.
    Unless you are a top-10 CEO, a king or simply paranoid, erasing a HDD properly with free software will do just fine.

    Here are some articles link, link on deleting/retrieving data, posted earlier in this thread.
     
  7. Phil

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    All true as to the various methods of electronically making old data inaccessible; still, smashing, torching, or otherwise physically rendering that data inaccessible is just so much more ... satisfying, somehow. :D
     
  9. CyberVisions

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    If anyone thinks just smashing a hard drive, platters, etc. will do anything, they're not up on the current state of technology in forensic data recovery, and these idiots are obviously in the group. Some data always remains and can be recovered. Simple deletion won't do it obviously either.

    Government agencies use programs that perform a complete 1/0 write to every byte and sector of the disk, overwriting any data that is there, and these programs are available in consumer versions that perform the same function. It's the only method authorized for the disposal of disks with classified information. However, in addition to the 1/0 write, the disk platters are also removed and destroyed, and returned to the agency. Each step requires documentation and custody signatures similar to evidence handling.
     
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    I like stacking hard drives then smashing them with a sledge hammer. It's fun and stress relieving. Just be careful and have the right tools (goggles, boots, gloves, etc) since shards can be dangerous. :)
     
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    I think that a torch would be fun to put to a HD as well...
     
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    No one has mentioned the giant shredders made specially for shredding hard drives, so I thought I would. I wonder what those bad boys cost??? You could put one on a truck and similar to the knife sharpening trucks of yesteryear, go around neighborhoods ringing a bell to get people to come out and shred their hard drive :)
     
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    Hard Drives are fun to burn until the gas burns off. Then it don't burn
     
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    Noterev Notebook Consultant

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    Does this article contend that a full format leaves trace data?

    How about FJerase?

    Smashing works only if the platters are fully destroyed.

    I've considered using a degausser, but that renders the drive worthless.

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    Can only be used for Fujitsu (IDE/ATA) HDD's, according to Fujitsu that is.
     
  16. MGS2392

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    I dunno about all HP Business notebooks, but my nx9420 has an option in the BIOS to clean the HDD. Pretty nifty...

    That is, if I ever expect to give anyone else my nx9420. Which, given it's current state, isn't going to happen.