NVMe 8 TB SSD

https://www.legitreviews.com/sabren...N-1FlqOWoK6TowdXw8F1k_DmEuaJtQ4fVBkl9FO8UnAe4

@Spartan and anyone interested in it.

I don't know if I can trust my money and 8 TB of my data to this brand, name seems shady but I guess the company has to start somewhere.

 

I've seen some people using them. I have no need for 8 TB as of now. 4TB is more than enough for me but this is a great step forward. Hopefully when 4 - 8 TB is the norm. Prices for 2TB and lower drives would be more affordable.

 

First off, unless you are buying from aliexpress SSDs have fairly low failure rates (even those). You want to look at the memory and controller they are using both are respectable and Sabrent is a good brand. They have been around for over a decade now providing peripherals and hard to find quality adapters with them having expanded into storage lately.

I would trust them over WD NVMes even, unless you are spending on Samsung...Sabrent is currently the way to go imo. The only thing I would ask yourself is if 8TB of QLC storage is worth the space advantage over 4TB of TLC.

 

I have the 4TB version of this from Amazon and it's worked good in a few different laptops over the last 6 months or so. I'd love to have a pair of these 8's in my laptop but I got a 8TB 2.5" instead for a lot less and it's been doing good for a backup and storage/media drive.

 

that sounds promising. I am more worried about the quality of PCB/soldering and the controller they're using. flash is micron so i guess thats a good thing.

 

They are using a customized Phison controller so its going to be fine. The quality of their sticks are alongside that of everyone else like Crucial, WD, Samsung, etc. I wouldnt consider their newer stuff entry level unlike that of adata, sandisk, hp and under. They are backing it up with a 5 year warranty which place it alongside Crucial and Samsung too as thats something reserved for higher tier drives (they are also responsive when you need help). Plus it has built-in overprovisioning so you wont be losing as much juicy space. Its one heck of a serious drive and Sabrents been designing PCBs since PCI was in its infancy lol A lot of cheaper drives that are just Phison/Micron or Phison/Toshiba from no-names are just reference boards which isnt bad in itself... but yeah

If you look at the PCIE 4 NVMes...they are so far the only ones to even get the cooling on those puppies right. If you absolutely need this storage density as an early adopter you are in good hands here...personally im in camp avoid QLC but its what you sacrifice for the density.

 

Which 8tb 2.5"? Link?

 

Are WD NVMes not good?

What are the disadvantages of QLC over TLC?

 

the 5 years warranty means nothing when 8 TB of your data gets lost. just trying to guess how frequent it would be, 1yr 2yrs or maybe 5+ yrs. i have had my intel SATA DC drive lasting over 8 yrs now still strong lol. well backup is necessary regardless which drive really.

toshiba ssd are some of the worst drives ive come across, along with sandisks these days. sandisk back in the old days with sandforce shined, still got them in my old laptop even after so many years. now that you mention it, this 8TB has to be phison controller, at least for now. they're the only company doing 8TB on NVMe and 16TB on SATA whcih they showcased months ago, phisons a decent one.

 

This is the one I have, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JQ2F2WG has worked great for my backups & data/media drive. Finally SSD's are catching up with my needs and no more need to carry an external drive around with me. I still backup to external 3.5" drives that I can easily store off site.

 

Once you start burning through your SLC cahe,if you have intention to actually...USE the space you paid for completely they are just speed potatos. Newer generations of QLC may help bandaid it but for now its like MLC vs TLC but with even less benefits past space. WD is new to the space and they own Sandisk which are rather...meh in the SSD space and they likely share the same DNA. For the price Crucial (Micron) and others are better

Having only two SSDs fail on me, one being sandisk i got at tigerdirect and a Toshiba 2.5...couldnt agree more lol the 5 year thing though just shows they are willing to stand behind the product versus throwing it to the wolves after a year or two (Sandisk ignored me, Toshiba sent me a visa card that took 8 months to arrive). The only failures of Sabrent drives so far have been due to running them above normal operating temps (75c+) for hours on end and being surprised they eat it. If you cool it, should be decent. and Yeah they are using a custom Phison based controller they co-designed for the 8T.

For the price difference though holy those Micron 2.5 look way more delicious if you throw them in the P870s bays then wait for samsung or crucials high capacity m.2 to hit market double the space for just a few hundred more...mmm

 

newer drives can easily target speed problem by using multiple channel. for QLC/PCIe4 they can do 16 or 32 channels and that should solve sequential write problem, though it would increase latency which is then masked by the cache.

more than 8 channel controller is expansive tho im not sure if they are willing to spend that much on a consumer drive especially with multi TB NVMe SSD are already expansive, they would have to eventually but probably not right now.

that 75C+ is it the controller or the flash?

 

I would best guess controller because Phisons max temp is 70c.

 

SSD is a weird one. controller needs to stay cool while flash needs to be hot for better endurance, we can only hope the solder for both are of good quality and done properly otherwise its dead SSD. samsung ssd are pretty nice when showing both temp in hwinfo (assuming the sensors indication are correct).

also, 70c for pcie 4 SSD thats a low target. unless they are using more advance node on controller then it'll be a constant throttle in laptops. we are already running damn hot with just pcie3 lol.

 

45~75% higher power consumption. Will be a mess in the thinner laptop models.

Rumor: Samsung to release M.2 980 Pro SSD within two months

 

yea. this is one thing I need intel to target their optane. sadly they wont cause even the m.2 optane sticks are all for enterprises (excluding the crappy 120gb sticks). but i think 2nd gen will be at least decent, they might really push better node on optane controller with 2nd or 3rd gen memory chip, and a better firmware too.

just have to see, right now my optane is probably drawing like 10-11w during max write lmao and i have that placed in my laptop right beside 2nd GPU fan to cool it.

 

I mean...if its going in the P870 or my P7 our laptops fit the EK desktop heatsinks and stuff with ease~ sucks for everyone using slimmer machines though. I would imagine the new replacement for these things wouldnt be dumb enough to thin it out to point doing this is impossible. Since it would be running in PCIE3 mode however I would imagine they run cooler or at least around same power draw of current pcie3 only drives...otherwise oof to battery life also

 

that increases the capacity and a bit of dissipation. p775 model type have a fan right above it so theres at least some air flow. at most that ssd is probably at around 7w.

the m.2 380gb optane is constantly at around 70c without a heat pipe and thats just idle temp, start throttling at around 80c. even if height allows a heatsink under p870 keyboard the length would not work its 110mm vs consumer 80mm type. i had to use GPU fan to cool it by getting a heat pipe to redirect heat.

when pcie 5 comes around which should be soon in 2021 or 2022 they really need to put premium controllers on premium node like 7nm or 5nm by then.

 

I just bought 1 of the Sabrent Rocket Q NVMe M.2 8TB drives for my HP Zbook Studio x360.

I currently have the following:

1. Samsung NVMe 970 Pro 1TB, running as the boot drive, with temps from 44 to 60 degrees C. (82.2 TBW over the past 9-10 months, 3954 hours))
2. Sabrent Rocket Q NVMe M.2 4TB, running as a fileserver/storage drive, with minimal writes, except when saving. (0.06144 TBW, many more reads, obviously) Temps basically 27-29 degrees C. (Power on Hours: 2277)
3. Samsung 860 Pro 4TB SSD (Temps usually 35 deg C, 11.6 TBW, S.M.A.R.T. Power-on hours: 629?), in place where a 2.5" drive kit was installed and the original battery had to be swapped out to a smaller one to accomodate it. Being used as storage drive, but particularly with a heavily-used - well, not so much as the laptop even with Xeon+32 GB ECC RAM - cannot handle the load of syncing almost 3
2.5-3.5TB with OneDrive Business.

I want to try to use the 8TB (I have a 2nd one coming shortly) in the following scenarios:

1. Transfer both the Sabrent 4TB+860 Pro files onto the Sabrent 8TB and install it in the 2nd NVMe slot on the laptop, and recover the space for the larger battery, but if OneDrive starts to read/write on the 8TB when installed as the NVMe, I'm afraid that too many TBWs will be written and shorten the length of the drive.

2. Replace the 970 Pro boot drive with an 8TB. However, not sure if Win10 Workstation+being a boot drive and also using storage of files might be a bad idea?

Any advice which of the 2 options above I should start with? Both would probably push the drives hard...

I would think that regarding heat, the Sabrents seem to be okay, but I haven't pushed the 4TB much, that's why it remains cool - and there's not much space between the drive underneath (it's double-sided) and the motherboard.

Also, I am wondering what alternatives to file drive syncing options are best - other than OneDrive...we have our Synology syncing the same data as well, and I'm backing up my files on the laptop with CrashPlan biz.

Let me know your thoughts guys and girls...

Thanks!

 

Just noted that the 8TB RocketQ is a single-sided NVMe drive!! Wow... (the 4TB is double-sided)

However, the Zbook doesn't recognize the drive in Win10 1909 - or 2004...installed in either NVMe M.2 slot on the motherboard.

BIOS is fully updated as well.

It was recognized as a 3rd uninitialized drive in an NVMe enclosure, but then when I chose GPT said the drive install failed...

Any tips on getting it to work?

 

Does HP have any support for this capacity drive?

 

Good question - I will have to call Zbook support on this.

However, I will try to see if formatting with MBR with drive in enclosure, and see what happens.

Will also see if the 2nd drive incoming shortly will work - as apparently there are DOA drives - as per Amazon.com reviews...

 

Well, it appears that the Sabrent NVMe 8TB drive I bought from Amazon.de appears to be a FAKE one...

The US-purchased Sabrent 8TB was slotted in the 2nd NVMe slot on the Zbook Studio x360 G5 and booted up, was able to format it with GPT with no problem at all...was 74xx TB in total, single partition.

Note: This one was indeed a double-sided NVMe drive - just like my Sabrent 4TB drive!

Insane - fake electronics in Germany now??

 

I was just wondering if I should configure the (1 working) 8TB NVMe as the secondary storage drive - or reinstall Win10Workstation on it, therefore forcing me to use it as the OS/boot drive + storage, where the storage would be continuously be accessed by OneDrive+CrashPlan?

 

If the 8TB drive proved to be as snappy (or better) than what you're currently using, yeah, I would do a clean Win10 install on it to get the most out of it.