NVidia GeForce 400 Series GFX

I am trying hard to find out any information on the internet with regards to this new line of mobile GPUs from NVidia but I am failing miserably. After all not even NVidia has anything on their website.

GeForce M Series - Ultimate Notebook PC Experience

Asus is supposed to be using them in their new N43/53/73 line of multimedia notebooks, specifically the GT 425M 1GB GDDR3.

Anyone have anymore info?

 

Notebookcheck: Review NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M "Fermi" in the Clevo D901F

So far, the Clevo is the only one using one of the new 400m Fermi GPUs.

 

Not impressed with the new geforce gpu's. They suck so much power. They turn your laptop into a portable heater. I havent seen any concrete numbers that show them out performing the 5870 either

 

well according to that link the 5870 falls about 750 points behind the 480 on 3d mark but it also shows the 5870 on 720 and 820 and the 820 scores more points while the 480 is on a 940 cpu so with the 5870 on a 940 it may only be 5-6% slower then the 480. And yeah the 480 uses much more power and creates much more heat. IMO the 480 is a fail is take the energy savings and heat savings of the 5870 over the 480 any day and take the -6% performance penalty for all the other savings. The card is also less money

 

But where are you getting this information from? The only one that has anything published is the GTX 480.

 

yea im talkin about the 480

 

There was one forum goer here that did a comparison between the two (he put a 5870 in his D900) and they were very close. Any other results are based off the fact that the GTX 480M is basically a downclocked GTX 465.
Doing a rough calculation, the 480M is basically 2/3 a 465 (based on clock speed) while the 5870 (mobile) is actually a 5770 downclocked slightly.

Based on this, we can take 2/3 of a 465 in benches and a 5870 (mobile) is basically 4/5 of a 5770. From this, the two are very close in performance, with the slight edge going to the 480M. The other difference is that Fermi sucks massive power compared to the 5xxx. Now I know we can't directly compare temperatures and power consumption but we can extrapolate directly based off the architecture to say that the mobile ATI should badly beat the Nvidia part on both accounts assuming these both somewhat scale to the mobile end.

Lastly, price wise, RJTech is selling 5870's for $350 and at RJTech, the 480M is selling for $940.

Basically, considering the price, I'd say 99.9999% of people that go with the Nvidia are fanboys since it's basically no step up from the 5870.

 

There are quite a lot of benches in the Clevo forums with 8850 and D900F, where the 480M runs at around 72C even for furmark, even cooler than most 5870MRs.

The price though, is a big problem yes.

 

even if the 480 runs cool theres no way in hell imma pay all that extra money for a tiny performance gain. gotta be crazy nvidia is failing on all fronts. any serious gamer desktop or laptop they are gonna use an ati card. 5970 best card in desktop world 5870 best card in mobile world. Anyone that uses an nvidia card is a fanboy like the other guy suggested they dont make decisions based on performance, power use etc they base it off they just like nvidia and they dont care it's not as good.

 

Also, it's worth noting that the benchmark machine on notebookcheck uses a desktop core i7, hardly fair when comparing to laptops with mobile CPUs. I think the sweet spot for Nvidia with mainstream gamers will be when the other, cheaper 400 series are released; until then, ATI is still king.

 

Well it is the other cheaper GPUs in the 400 series that I was looking for information about.

It is quite the role reversal when NVidia is the one that needs to compete in the bang for your buck segment with the mainstream gamers.

 

Nah, ATI has always had better price points, they just often didn't have enough of a performance increase to make it worthwhile.

And about the lower end 400 series - based on what we know about the 460m, the rest of the 400 series will be a very minor step up from the current 200/300 series. 480 is about equal to ati's 5870, the 460m is about equal to nv's 280m, so the 425m and 410m should be about 10-15% better than the current 330m/310m.

 

That is my point. ATi has long competed well in the "bang for your buck" in the GPU market, but now they are just flat dominating so NVidia has to come out with the medium gaming capable GFX cards that will go into the 14-15" notebook segment.

Thanks for the info. If the 425M is a slight upgrade to the 3xx then it is enough for me.