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    Nanowire batteries are just around the corner!!!!

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by DCMAKER, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    Most of this technology has roots from 20 or 25 years ago (if not more).
    Realistically though, they've already been developed for practical use in at least half that time frame since the initial root discovery, but they won't reach the market just yet because the way current economy model works is that they want to try and milk the consumers for as much money as possible while using old technology.

    Intel never really made any real innovations either until multiple core cpu's came to the market, and those only happened because Intel hit a road block with the Ghz's on current silicon chips.

    Graphene cpu's can be ready for manufacturing on mass today with speed that reach say not 30 Ghz, but 10 or 15Ghz.
    Slap that on multiple cores and you have yourself a heck of a cpu for contemporary times.

    But then, we are looking at the software itself which took ages to just START adopting x64 OS-es... how long will they take before they write their programs or rewrite them to support completely new cpu's?

    It will likely happen, but in a capitalist type of society, it will take a couple of decades.
    Actual innovations happens rarely in such a world and I'm actually amazed how people say that technology 'evolves' at such a fast rate.
    It's not.
    It's been previously developed and we are just getting revisions of what came before in a much smaller form factor.
    :D
     
  2. DCMAKER

    DCMAKER Notebook Deity

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    double post plz delete..internet tripping
     
  3. DCMAKER

    DCMAKER Notebook Deity

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    lol they want to milk current tech...hardly. the creator of this wants it out so badly. Car manufactures want this badly too. with this new tech they would be able to make electric cars affordable and practical same as hybrids. Also the fact that lithium is a rare mineral and every expensive. It is in short supply and the supplies are shrinking daily.

    EDIT: you got to be kidding oyu sound liek one of those people who think corporations and the government are trying to control everything and turn us into slaves....now there is some truth in that but hardly whatever is going on in your brain
     
  4. Judicator

    Judicator Judged and found wanting.

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    It's not the capitalist type of society that's really the issue. Innovation generally happens because there's an unfulfilled need or desire, and thus the innovation happens to fulfill that. Thus, the primary driver of innovation would usually have to be competition. And that is a big part of the problem with most non-capitalist types of society; there is (by design) less competition, and thus there is usually a bit less innovation by nature. Of course, a really "capitalist" society is unpalatable to most people (too cut-throat) and thus most of what people consider capitalist these days is actually not very (instead being a mixed economy). This is getting political, though, so we shouldn't delve into it too deeply.
     
  5. DCMAKER

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    agreed forum rules prohibit this.
     
  6. Przn4lif3

    Przn4lif3 Notebook Consultant

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    Out of curiosity. If these batteries come out, say, tomorrow. Would I be able to use them with my G53?
     
  7. DCMAKER

    DCMAKER Notebook Deity

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    ah not sure. I need to calculate their voltage. Haven't done that. Plus i need to do a little research into how exact the voltage has to be for a laptop. If its like a 14.4 volt battery. Can it run off 15 volts? I need to talk to onthandon or whatever his name is. He should know the answer. I believe they have a higher voltage. I am not sure. Read the PDF file. It should be in there. I remember it being in there but being kinda confusing. Like depending on what they did the voltage was different or something...maybe getting confused with a different article....been a while since i read up on this. I also need to do a little more research. Debating on emailing the Professor that created it for more info. I gained about all i can from batteryspace. I might try to work on this over a 72/96 coming up. Still need to redo my thermal paste on laptop so debating which i should do :/

    EDIT: i was wondering about this a few months ago because LiFePO4 batteries have a bit lower density and voltage than a regular li-ion battery but they got like 2k charges before they have 80% capacity...compared to the 300ish of regular li-ions. Think about that....2k charges lol. That thing can recharge and discharge forever! Also i think it has the ability to charge faster too.

    Another question is i heard that some laptops have fast charging batteries....i always wondered if those were the LiFePO4 batteries.


    EDIT: let me add that a lot of this stuff goes waaaayyyy past my head. The cahrges and atomic percentage and stuff....not sure what i am looking at -_- I am sure i would easily understand ti if someone explained what the charge was showing but figuring it out on my own is more effort than i wish to do ^^


    EDIT
    so maybe. I glanced over this and it seemed that they haven't made up there mind over what cathode to use. Now i glanced this and might have read this wrong...its late and io am lazy but that's a statement inside i quickly found. Note i am not sure when this was written.
     
  8. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    Mr Unknown Notebook Enthusiast

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    don't know if these are nanowire batteries but here are some specs

    http://industrial.panasonic.com/www-data/pdf2/ACA4000/ACA4000CE254.pdf

    Cylindrical type | Lithium Ion Batteries | Batteries, Power supplies | Panasonic Industrial Solutions Global


    read m jones...he has very good info on it. it is kinda like lico2 cells but they use almost all nickle instead of cobalt
    Energy Storage permanent thread - Ars Technica OpenForum


    Correction Si-alloy
    this says its using si-alloy?
    http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20100223/180545/
     
  10. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    yep it definitly say they are using a silicone alloy

    people over the candlepower forum tested the 3100mah and they are quite resilient ty would be ieal for people like who's laptop drains alot of power

    the
     
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