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    Near Death Caused By HDD

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Beatsiz, Jun 14, 2009.

  1. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    Seriously now guys...
    SINCE WHEN HAVE HDD PLATTERS BEEN GLASS?

    I nearly cut myself to death a minute ago whilst playing drums!



    I took apart an HDD and set the platter on my cymbal which gave off a nice sizzle, so I started jammin' out and then I felt like hitting a splash and my high crash and glass flew everywhere nearly cutting me! I have a couple scratches here and there but luckily I ducked real fast...


    No, I am not stupid, retarded or ADD/ADHD etc...


    I just never expected them to be GLASS!
    :D



    PS: YES, this really did just happen







    EDIT: I am now going to be using HDD platters for many thing like art and music :D

    Ancient (read: not pre-2000, but pre-1990 or so... idk for sure lol) HDD's have thick platters not suited for drums :D

    3.5" HDD's have Aluminum platter AFAIK
     

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    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Pics or it didnt happen haha

     
  3. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    Right up!

    Just gotta go get my camera and size the pics down, brb
     
  4. octagonalman

    octagonalman Notebook Guru

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    What makes you think it's made of glass? Check outside your broken window for the metal platter, or maybe you've got a broken lightbulb now. :S
     
  5. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    No... seriously... it shattered, and the inside gives off a shiny fragile ridged looking glass...

    And flipfire already confirmed it can be glass/ceramic

    I am taking pics right now
     
  6. octagonalman

    octagonalman Notebook Guru

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    Oh right, it's only a thin top layer of magnetic material... Maybe when you want to clean up you can try use a magnet to help out.
     
  7. Beatsiz

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    Hmmm, for some reason the pictures won't upload, I'll try sizing them down again
     
  8. RaYYaN

    RaYYaN Back on NBR :D

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    You actually put the platter on the cymbal and then started jammin :eek: :eek:

    AWESOME :D :D :D

    But pics are a must :p
     
  9. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    Yeah, I was wacking them against the cymbals to hear how it sounded, then I set it on my ride, sizzled and I immediately *JIMP'ed*

    So I screwed off my hi-hats and ride, on go the platters and... jam jam jam, ROCK IT OUT! "CRAAASH" splinters, glass and a what the CUFF!!! (Cufflinks... not haaha)



    PS: Pics are uploading
     
  10. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    FINALLY UPLOADED ! ! !

    I had to upload them one by one... group upload just failed for no reason!


    I still laugh when I see this thread even though it was me hahaha
     
  11. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    I challenge the idea that they're made of glass. Run the experiment again!
     
  12. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    THERE ARE PICTURES ! ! !
     
  13. riahc3

    riahc3 Notebook Evangelist

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    I dont think they are made of glass. Glass isnt magnetic.
     
  14. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    I was only joking.
     
  15. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    It's not supposed to be a huge magnetic platter...

    It is so faint that you wouldn't notice...


    All I know is that it freakin' shattered, look at the pictures!
    And I am telling that it's glass. I KNOW SO!
     
  16. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    I resent the ADD/ADHD comment.
     
  17. Beatsiz

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    I didn't mean to offend anybody...

    I was just saying so because I know people would think I just want attention at first because this is does sound absurd in a way...


    Sorry man, don't take it personally.

    Phil
     
  18. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Thanks for the warning :)

    That actually is good news for data safety - this means its easy to destroy (obliterate) an HDD - and only a pulverizd HDD cannot be recovered in any way.

    (Or one that was molten to a single lump)
     
  19. Cin'

    Cin' Anathema

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    Wowsa! *crash*

    I don't think I would be happy if this happened to me.. :(


    Cin ;) :)
     
  20. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    This doesnt mean that every HDD is glass/ceramic centered.

    What sounds fishy is that why would a 2.5" Hard Drive meant to go into a LAPTOP be made out of GLASS?!

    And normal 3.5" Desktop Hard Drive would be made out of solid metal platters?
     
  21. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    You play drums?!

    And yes, it is a pain to clean up, all these little tiny shards all over my brand new 6 Piece Sonor Force 3007 in Sparkle White <3

    And all over my Zildjian Avedis Cymbals... but they are pure solid METAL, not dumb glass lol
     
  22. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Hmm.... I suppose you could go on comparing properties...

    Hardness, expansion, etc.
     
  23. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    Laptops don't get hotter than Desktops, so that rules out not using metal in 2.5"

    And laptop are obviously meant to be moving around... meaning METAL would be the best choice yet again...


    This is getting serious now... I have never seen a GLASS PLATTERED HDD
     
  24. Aeris

    Aeris Otherworldly

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    Beatsiz, that was quite dangerous, I did not know that a hard drive's platter could be made out of glass, but you just proved me wrong.

    I guess, you are lucky to be alive, thanks for the warning, now I know that Hard Drive Platters do not make good Battery Platters...

    Out of curiosity, what brand of hard drive was it?
     
  25. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    I know there are pure metal platters!
    When I took apart my old Desktop's HDD it didn't break... IT BENT

    I wonder if this is for all 2.5"...


    Western Digital WD Scorpio
    WD2500BEVS
     
  26. Aeris

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    That is true, back when I had a Pentium II Computer, I un-screwed the hard drive to see what was inside, big mistake, I lost it, the sad part, it had lots of important data in it.

    Are there any volunteers to unscrew their hard drives open and find out if the platters are made out of glass and aluminum, people? Anyone?

    Well, at least the hard drive has a suiting name, "Scorpio, mess with me and I will hurt you.", now that is a good data protection system.

    Right, at least you are not hurt at all, those are good news, next time that I open an hard drive, I will make sure to wear thick clothing and proper eye and face protection, a welding mask preferably.
     
  27. Beatsiz

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    Feels like I rubbed fiberglass insulation all over my arm... (oh yeah, hehehe another stupid story)

    This is just plain weird... are they trying to get our laptop HDD's to break ASAP?
     
  28. Aeris

    Aeris Otherworldly

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    ... Fiberglass Insulation on your arm?! That would make a creepy story, I think. The man with the fiberglass insulation arm, soon in your nearest movie theater, anyway, I hope that you are alright.

    I have no idea, but I'd rather not go into conspiracy theories at the moment, maybe it is just that glass is easier to put into laptop hard drives than aluminum, or it does not absorb heat as much, the latter sounds convincing.
     
  29. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    Heat doesn't matter, because DESKTOPS CREATE WAY MORE HEAT AND THEY USE THE ALUMINUM hahahahaah

    I am going crazy lol



    Yes, as a kid I played in my friends attic and we loved the yellow and pink mattresses made out of... Fiberglass insulation :D
    Or when I painted murals without an organic particle gas mask for a year...

    I feel like I should be dead by now hahaha
    But I know it was all only short term effects ;)
     
  30. madmook

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    Why would you do this? :confused:
     
  31. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    Do you have any idea how sweet it would be to use *METAL* platters as sizzlers?

    Instead of some dumb chains that will scratch it up, a nice small round HDD platter would be perfect! And the sound it gives off is high pitched and quick, just like a splash!


    Obviously this attempt failed... lol
     
  32. 5482741

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    Your HDD is literally "fragmented" now.
     
  33. peli_kan

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    Wow just install some sizzle rivets... it's a super easy task if you have decent cymbals that don't crack propogate.
     
  34. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    I could not stop laughing for ten minutes.
    I don't think I would ever actually do that to my ride cymbal, though. That's not exactly something you can undo. I paid good money for my Zildjians, and I'd rather not be poking holes in 'em. :p
     
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    Maybe it's lighter is all I could think of.
     
  36. Beatsiz

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    I'm loving all the excuse for a Glass Platter vs Metal lol


    I am NOT poking any hole in my cymbal!

    That's why the idea of just having those tiny platters sizzle the bell.
    Anything else is usually way too heavy, scratches, mods the cymbal or sounds wrong...
     
  37. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    lol wow thats awesome. glad ur ok
    i dont think any software can defragment ur drive though lol
     
  38. Brian10161

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    lol Lucky that nothing happened to you.

    I broke one apart and nearly blinded myself. I was trying to destroy the platter, but I didn't realize it was glass. I went to bend the disc in half and poof. I put full force into it thinking it was aluminum. When it flew apart, shards nailed me in the face, luckily I closed my eyes. I felt so dumb afterward lol

    PS: It does produce a nice sound on the cymbals :)
     
  39. jackluo923

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    First of all...
    There are quite a lot of hdd platters that are glass.
    Ever wondered why you don't see any IBM hdds anymore? The most famous example are those IBM hdd which shattered while spinning and they got sued. IBM is not Hitachi if you didn't know that.

    There's barely any hdd platters that are made out of aluminum.
    1. expensive
    2. they might wobble while spinning at high speed
    3. they can disrupt the magnetic tracks on the surface of the platter.
    4. Glass is a good insulator. That's why high voltage electric line use glass or ceramic insulators on the pole.


    Ahh...feel sorry for you guys who attempted to break potentially hazardous PC components.
     
  40. ViciousXUSMC

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    Definitely not the intended use of the product, and definitely not near death experience. Made me enter this thread hoping a 15,000rpm SCSI drive ran off and cut into somebody like a saw blade, now I am disappointed :(
     
  41. Bartlett

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    lol haha! nice. it seems that SSD drives are the "safety scissors" of drives lol
     
  42. Beatsiz

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    Until they overload and shoot a stream of electrons into your brain and you fry and receive supah powaaahs :D
     
  43. Fragilexx

    Fragilexx Get'cha head in the game

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    Claim on the warranty!

    Glad you are ok, but seriously, you just made my day. Made me chuckle :)
     
  44. Beatsiz

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    Hahaha, your HDD sucks because when I took it out to test the tonality it shattered!!! rofl :D
     
  45. Fragilexx

    Fragilexx Get'cha head in the game

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    Or you could try to sue. You know like how McDonalds puts on their coffee lids that the product is hot so you can't sue them if you burn yourself. Well, bet the HDD manufacturer didn't put anything about drum kits in their instruction manual........
     
  46. Beatsiz

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    Hahaha, yeah, that woman who made Millions off of that... whew!

    I just want an explanation as to why use Glass vs Metal?
     
  47. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Jackluo923 gave a nice explanation of why glass is used rather than aluminum or other metal:


    Also, disclaimers can get pretty ridiculous...makes you wonder what the hell happened to make them include that disclaimer on the product. The warning label on the hot coffee is one thing, but get this: When I bought my basic drum set a few years ago, there was a tag on the kick drum with the usual warnings and stuff, but one warning caught my eye in particular:

    "Do not attempt to use the drum set in the event of an earthquake".

    To this day, I still wonder if that warning was put there because someone had actually tried that...
     
  48. Fragilexx

    Fragilexx Get'cha head in the game

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    Or on a chainsaw that says "do not attempt to stop blade with hands"....superb.

    Best one I ever heard of was not even a disclaimer. On a box of sunmaid raisins apparently it said "why not try tossing over your favourite breakfast cereal"..... er ahem ok.....

    Anyway, may I direct your attention to the following little Webopedia article:
    http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Hardware_Software/2002/InsideHardDrive.asp

    The important part is below:

    Traditionally platters are made of a light aluminum alloy and coated with a magnetizable material such as a ferrite compound that is applied in liquid form and spun evenly across the platter or thin metal film plating that is applied to the platter through electroplating, the same way that chrome is produced. Newer technology uses glass and/or ceramic platters because they can be made thinner and also because they are more efficient at resisting heat.

    Google is like magic sometimes; what the heck did we used to do before it was around?
     
  49. Beatsiz

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    So now I have to look around and find Aluminum platters?! OH NOES ! ! !

    I will dig out some old 3.5" HDD's and see what I can do!


    Before google we made things up so they sounded right, or stuck to *GASP* books and elderly people... which google pretty much increased exponentially ever since...

    Wait... didn't we have Yuckhoo (Yahoo...) and AOL before Google :D
     
  50. Beatsiz

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    WOW ! ! !

    I just opened a Matrox HDD from 1999 and it has... ONE platter, but if you push down with you nail to make it bend and snap back a bit it will RING OUT A HIGH PITCHED BELL LIKE SOUND ! ! !


    <3 FOUND ONE ! ! !

    Now If I can only find a multi plattered one...



    Note: 3.5" HDD's have so much wasted space it's not even funny
    Using glass still doesn't make sense because HDD's never get hotter than 100C and that temperature barely affects Aluminum as far as I know




    PS: OMG ! ! ! IT'S SO CUTE ! ! ! IT SOUNDS LIKE A BABY CHINESE GONG ! ! !
     
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