Need help with RAM and SSD

Well guys soon the P150EM should be arriving to every user who pre-ordered from all of the re-sellers and well I'm still having trouble deciding which SSD to put in and what RAM I've been reading a lot and these are the last components I am considering

For SSD Crucial M4 256 GB vs Mushkin Deluxe 240GB vs Samsung 830 256GB SSD vs Intel 330 or 520 of 180GB or 240GB all of these im getting for below 235 dollars the priciest being the 520 from intel at 235 and the lowest being the intel 330 at 140 bucks

So yeah i need best quality less power draw and best warranty for my buck since read and write speeds dont really matter any ssd will be faster than an HDD and my cap for SSD is 250 and well the highest one on my list is below it so yeah help me decided.

RAM well i read around the forums that P150EM doesnt support Vengeance ram at 1600Mhz and down clocks it to around 1333Mhz i really dont care for Mhz speed on my ram but i don't want it below 1600Mhz and i want to use 8GB sticks not 4GB ones i wanna buy 2 for now to get 16GB which is what i currently want and need.

Here the contest is between Corsair Vengeance (which down clocks but if nothing else i guess ill get it)
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model CMSX8GX3M1A1600C10

Patriot
Newegg.com - Patriot Signature 8GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model PSD38G16002S

Mushkin which is also another choice im considering since it has lower voltage and they are relatively cheap and good rep
Newegg.com - Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 8GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model 992038

or G skill
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 8GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model F3-1600C11S-8GSQ

once again i want 8gb sticks dont really have a need for 4gb sticks dont wanna throw anything away when i upgrade to 32Gb and well yeah i dont see any other ram that could work


so whats your 2 cents about this?

 

Samsung 830, Crucial M4, the rest, my order of preference for the SSD, Intel has good customer service and warranty, but i prefer non sandforce drives.

RAM: whatever is cheaper, you won't really notice the difference. If you're an enthusiast and like to tweak stuff, i'd get the vengeance though.

 

I wanted to go with Vengeance but wont it be clocked below its original values? i read that on more than 10 threads and im asking about the others because well im not sure which is better or on par with vengeance since the probs.

Also yeah i was thinking of samsung and crucial but can you give me a bit more on these 2? i really need more details before i base my decicion lol my p150em will come to me without a drive or ram so i really need to make this decicion to use it XD jejejeje and alone i tend to do stupid choices thats why im asking for opinions

 

The RAM speed depends on the CPU's memory controller, i7 ivy bridge CPUs will take 1600MHz RAM without any problems.

Samsung 830 is faster than the M4, and it has a software toolbox. The M4 is usually pretty cheap (for a SSD these days) for a 30$ difference or less, i'd get the 830, if the difference is something like 70$, i'd get the M4. In between it depends on how much you value benchmarks and having a software toolbox.

 

Well i can get M4 for $170 and the samsung 830 for $190 so yeah money aint really different but well i just want good quality item and support of warranty in case it goes BOOM XD whats this software toolbox you speak of?

Also ram well im ordering a 3610QM so it should support 1600Mhz but according to the threads in this forum vengeance line wont work at full speed it will down clock to 1333Mhz on P150EM models

 

Yeah lol went back to the threads and apparently with the old P150HM vengeance line didn't work without mods so yeah anyone have any intel if it will work or not with P150EM?

 

On the how-to overclock SO-DIMMs thread they say it works. Here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...600-2133-beyond-jedec-xmp-48.html#post8596624

read those last 2 posts then head to the next page (49) and it's explained.

 

Samsung RMA process for SSDs:
Call 800 number
Explain situation and give serial number
They email you a prepaid next day shipping label
Ship item
They receive it and they ship you back a new SSD with one day shipping the same day.

 

Well I think i will be going with a Samsung 830 128GB or 256GB SSD not sure yet but I'm still not sure about the ram I still don't know what brand will run without any problems with the laptop =/ I think either Mushkin vengenace or a samsung brand that is typically used with these pc's since i still got no word from anyone who actually has tried it.

 

RAM is RAM, brand is not an issue.

 

I would suggest you take the advice of people that are posting here. That's why you posted to begin with right? RAM is RAM like s2odin said. And, like you saw, ALL IVB equipped laptops run at 1600. Get whatever RAM you can find for cheap. Just don't get one that you find on a shady website and costs 13 cents per module.

 

I understand that people that are posting know what they are saying but if only you would read what I'm saying and understand my question first. I know ram is ram but I've seen post right here in this same forum that people talk about some modules not working the right way on a P150EM I'm asking if any of the ones I was already going to buy will work without any problems I've read forums here where some of the people like you say that know have said vengeance ram downclocks to 1333MHz when used on a clevo P150HM Ijust wanna know if the EM models will have the same prob and if it does what ram will work without any problems cause most ram resellers don't accept returns and Idont wanna waste money if I can get feedback

 

The P150HM used sandy bridge CPUs while the EM uses ivy bridge CPUs, different chipset and memory controller so the most likely answer is no you will not run into the same problems as some people an into with the 150HM.

 

I DID read what you said. That is why I saw you again and again asking whether the 150EM lets RAM run at 1333 even after a mod had clearly said you should have no problems. Then you said that you made a mistake and that the 150HM runs at 1333 which is no surprise because Sandy Bridge controllers only allowed 1333 at stock.

On that overclocking forum, there are several people who have clocked their RAM to over 2133 on the 150EM models. That would have confirmed your doubts. Furthermore, you could have googled to see if IVB allowed RAM to run at 1600.

 

Note because i am a mod, it doesn't mean that my opinion takes precedence (on matters other than those related to moderation) on or that's it's any better than that of another member. There are people far more knowledgeable than me on NBR. In this case though, since the EM vs HM use different CPU architectures and 1600MHz is officially listed as supported by Intel, you shouldn't have any problems.

 

^Also true. Should not have said that.

 

risking sounding silly, but does not the tCL of the card matter? That is, if you put a FASTER (lower number) card with CL=10 into a laptop which has a SLOWER (higher number) CL=11 soldered, the faster card will have to operate on CL=11, which means that it will be underclocked (e.g. 1600->1333)?

 

You did not read the whole conversation. OP was wondering if the processor on the P150EM would allow RAM to run at 1333 (like a Sandy Bridge controller). IVBs allow RAMs at 1600. OP was never trying to put a 1333 and 1600 memory together. He was asking if the Clevo's only allow 1333 regardless of the stick's speed. The thing is, it has nothing to DO with a Clevo (or Sony or any brand for that matter). The RAM speed is chosen by the CPU (for Sandy Bridge onwards) and all CPUs will run RAM at the speed Intel decides. Read this for more info on that.

 

Actually the prob that the Clevos are having was something to do with the XMP part of the ram what im wondering if the vengeance is XMP or JEDEC and if its XMP it should end up downclocked or the speed wont be the same as i read Clevo P150HM & EM dont work very well with XMP format RAM but yeah...

I'm still not sure as not many clevo users have tried 8GB modules so im pretty much lost right now cause most sites dont specify if the ram is JEDEC or XMP or atleast i dont find it in the specs and im not sure if the whole XMP prob is still the same in the EM model as in the HM one

 

The HM series had nothing to do with JEDEC or XMP. The CPU choos mem clocks and it clocked the mem at 1333. Those that tried to overclock memory had problems. XMP helps with OC'ing memory. If the HM BIOS did not support XMP and if someone tried to overclock the memory then they would run into problems if they tried to enable XMP.

I still don't see how or why it should matter. Memory isn't of a certain "type". Those two are industry standards. IVB can support 1600. You put a memory that comes with stock clocks at 1600 and it will run at 1600 no matter what.

 

Well lol that is precisely what i wanted to know =D you have just clarified my question I dont really care for Over clocking ram as i see it as pointless right now i just wanted to know if it wouldnt run below original Clocks its all just dont wanna have any probs as newegg doesnt allow returns in case it didnt work. Anyways thanks XD thats pretty much all i was missing to buy I just read so many post that said so many different things it just got confusing at some point its all.