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    Needs a Laptop with older mini-PCI slot and Intel Core based CPU..

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by rhoniel, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. rhoniel

    rhoniel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,
    I am looking for a laptop which has older mini-PCI WiFi slot (instead of newer mini-PCI Express slot) and supports Intel Core based CPUs like Core Duo, Core Solo or Celerom M. I'll also look at the AMD based dual core CPU notebooks with older mini-PCi WiFi slot.

    The reason for this is, that I run a wireless network on Atheros 802.11a turbo (108Mbps) mode and I cannot get any new mini-PCI Express based card to support this turbo (108Mbps) mode. I still have some older mini-PCI based cards lying around. I just need a laptop which can support a dual core CPU with mini-PCi card.

    Thanks.
     
  2. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

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    New laptops can be had for $550 and less........

    New APs can be had for $30- and less..........
     
  3. rhoniel

    rhoniel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah I understand your point about getting new AP & access cards but I still want to keep my Atheros 802.11a turbo (108Mbps) network for following reasons.

    - 802.11b cards cannot 'see' my network.

    - 802.11g cards cannot 'see' my network.

    - 802.11a cards in standard mode cannot 'see' my network.

    - 802.11n cards cannot 'see' my network.

    - Newer PCI-Express a/b/g cards from Atheros cannot 'see' my network even though it is stated that theses cards support turbo mode.

    - You cannot hack something you cannot 'see'.

    Buying a newer laptop & wireless cards is not the issue since I have four Atheros AR5BXB6 PCI-Express cards and a newer Lenovo laptop sitting that I cannot use on my network. I am just looking for a laptop which has older mini-PCI WiFi slot which can potentially support dual core (AMD or Intel) CPUs. I can upgrade the CPU if needed, that's not a problem.
    Thanks.
     
  4. rhoniel

    rhoniel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Bump.

    I was looking at Toshiba Satellite A100 series of laptops. These laptops use ATI Xpress 200M chipset and have Core Solo T1350 CPU. Does anyone know what kind of WiFi slot does those laptop have.
    Thanks.
     
  5. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    i think one of the last systems to have mini PCI wireless was the clevo D900T/D900K
    There are lots of Pentium M systems with miniPCI, but not too many coresolo, core duo or core 2 duo ones.

    I cant think of any off the top of my head, but if I do, I will post them

    K-TRON
     
  6. rhoniel

    rhoniel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey thanks for your reply.

    I know I can get mini-PCI with many Pentium-M class laptops but I I'd prefer a Core Solo or Celeron M420 CPU laptop with mini-PCI slot. I have an older IBM T42 (Pentium M) with hacked bios and if it comes to that I can get another one.

    Few years ago I had an Acer Travelmate 2480 laptop with mini-PCI slot which had Intel 940 GML chipset with Celeron-M 410 CPU. I was able to upgrade it to Core SoloT1350 CPU. I was wondering may be there are some Intel 943 GML based laptops out there with mini-PCI slot. I know 943 GML can take Core Duo with EMT64 support. If I can get something like that, I'll be set for next five years ;)

    Thanks.
     
  7. __-_-_-__

    __-_-_-__ God

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    what is so special about that Atheros 802.11a turbo that you can't do with another card?
    It would be much better if you buy a cheap recent notebook and get a new card. with the money you would save you could buy any card you want to meet your requirements.
     
  8. weirdo81622

    weirdo81622 Notebook Evangelist

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    While it's true that it is very hard to hack a network you can't see, I don't think that you're approaching the problem the right way. Say in 2 years you get a wifi equipped cellphone that only supports b/g/n. What are you going to do then?

    Anyway, It is also very hard to hack a well protected wifi network. The major vunerability is if you choose a password that is easy to guess. If you use any standard network (like N), and set a WPA2 password that contains letters, numbers, and symbols. Since most password cracking programs need a database of passwords to check against, if you choose something like "as4@9Zm(j-aty", as an example, you're as safe as you are with your special setup now.

    You can also hide your network from visibility (disable SSID broadcast) so someone would have to know the exact name and password of your network to actually connect to it.
     
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    __-_-_-__ God

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    maybe he wants the atheros to hack other networks. some programs are very limited in chipset support. but like I said, there are other options. get a new notebook and buy a wifi card that does the same job. It's a waste of money to buy an outdated notebook
     
  10. weirdo81622

    weirdo81622 Notebook Evangelist

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    Agreed. The advice I gave from above was from my own experience hacking networks with a Broadcom (Dell) card. But I suppose that if he is insistent on an Atheros card (or even that one), he can keep the lappy that he has now for hacking/whatever and a new one for other work.
     
  11. rhoniel

    rhoniel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Alright lets give this another shot.

    As I mentioned in my second post, I already have a newer Lenovo laptop (T5600 CPU) and few PCI-Express WiFi cards laying around in the house. So buying another laptop & router is not an issue. The only thing I am looking for in a laptop is whether it will support 802.11a turbo mode.


    So has anyone ever came across a laptop that had older mini-PCI WiFi slot but can potentially support dual core (AMD or Intel) CPUs?

    Thanks.
     
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    marvelousmarvyd Notebook Guru

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    Gateway MX6214?
     
  13. rhoniel

    rhoniel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey thanks for your suggestion.
    I have searched for Gateway MX6214 and it seems it has 940 GML chipset instead of 943 GML. The 940 GML chipset can only support a Core Solo CPU and not the dual cores.

    Has anyone ever seen a laptop with 943 GML chipset with mini-PCI wifi slot?
     
  14. rhoniel

    rhoniel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Since my first post in this thread, I have found few laptops which support dual-core CPUs and older mini-PCI slot for WiFi cards instead of newer mini-PCIE slot.

    I am listing following models which I have verified myself to be having older mini-PCI slot. I am listing this information as it may help anyone else who may be looking for same types of laptops.

    Gateway MX3701 (Intel dual-core + ATI chipset)

    Averatec 7170 (7100 Series. AMD Turion dual-core + nVidia chipset)

    MSI L730 (AMD Turion dual-core + nVidia chipset)

    Gateway MT3418, MT3422 ,MT3423 (AMD Turion dual-core + nVidia chipset)

    Gateway MT3418 ships with single core AMD CPU but if you are so inclined it can support dual-core Turion CPU after appropriate BIOS update.
     
  15. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    why can't u just get a new router and new laptop? Seriously , WTH would u want to use wireless A?
     
  16. rhoniel

    rhoniel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Its a hobby thing & I don't expect many to understand it anyway. I am running 5 laptops & two Popcorn Hour media streamers off that network and I have an obsession to keep this network running as long as I can.

    As far as new laptop and router goes, I have mentioned on the first page of this thread that I have already got new laptops. Actually I started this thread after going through 3 newer model laptops. Only after going through new model laptops I realized that those would not meet my needs. But I solved my problem since now I've found what I was looking for.