New 2nd Gen intel desktop processors laptops

Is sager coming out with a HD 6970m crossfire options with 2600k i7?? Or is anyone else coming out with a laptop which will incorporate desktop i7's and not the 1st gen ( 950,960 ect...)?? Thanks!

 

Probably, but with SB mobile quads being so close to the desktop quads, is it really necessary? It's not as if you'll get the greatest OCing potential out of the 2600K in a laptop.

 

You're saying that the mobile sb cpus are pretty much desktop equivalents? I mean you're talking like 2.5 at their best vs. 3.4. plus desktop sb processors are cheap. I am trying to wait for the 2600k and then 2x 6970ms.. just cuz their price is sooo much better than nvidias right now.

 

Hmz, sandybridge clocks pretty damn well with little heat.

With a pair of 6970s or 485Ms in crossfire you could see a nice little gain with clocking.

They have reached 4.6ghz with the stock slimline cooler so I dont see 4.4ghz being a problem in a well cooled laptop.

You would need the desktop P67 chipset ofc.

 

Agreed. assuming the 6970m crossfire really would be that fast... I have yet to see real benchmarks on games with it, for some reason they aren't out. Hopefully some fools like eurocom decide to stop putting in the i7 950 and switch it with the 2600k!

 

Not quite. The reason they're close is that the mobile chips Turbo by a massive amount. Given good cooling, the 2820QM (which is nominally 2.3GHz) can Turbo all the way up to 3.1GHz with all 4 cores active and stay there. We haven't seen such a laptop yet (the reference model stabilizes at 2.7GHz), but it is surely easier to build a cooling system capable of keeping up the Turbo than it is to accommodate a desktop CPU that draws twice as much power for the sake of another 400MHz (the 2600 starts at 3.4GHz and can Turbo up to 3.5GHz with all 4 cores active).

The desktop CPUs are indeed much cheaper, but stuffing one into a laptop is going to be expensive so it more or less events out.

 

How can a desktop CPU get into a laptop? :/

 

By making a "laptop" that's over 2 inches thick and weighs 12 pounds.

 

I don't think it turbos with all 4 cores active. i think it has to turn 2 off, that's how it gets away with it, which is ultimately efficient for things like gaming anyway which can't really utilize 4 cores. all in all, i think waiting for the 2600k in a laptop would be the best option because it's hella fast and the pinset is new. I mean unless I am convinced getting the i7 950 (which is the other option) instead of the 2600k, which I doubt is near as fast.

 

The 2820QM has 8/9/10/11 turbo, which means it can do 3.1 GHz (2.3+8*.1) with all 4 cores active.

 

... Fail. A laptop is supposed to be a portable PC, not a slimline desktop ._.
And what about the TDP and the cooling? How would it work?

 

Magic.


Not Pictured: Ice Fairies.

 

Fair enough. how do you like your 6870? the 6970m is supposed to be somewhere around there... trying to get it crossfired in a laptop.

 

In the past I had one, they are called desktop replacements. It was a Dell Inspiron 9100 with a desktop 2.8GHz Pentium 4. It had 3 fans, an ATI Radeon 9800 and weighed around 9lbs. Never again. Battery life was like 1.5 hours.

 

Lithus is correct. Turbo Boost 2.0 is vastly improved over Nahalem, which looks like a prototype by comparison. However, the mobile CPUs do exceed their TDP going full turbo on four cores, so after 25 seconds the clock has to lower a bit. The 2820QM seems to be able to stabilize at 2.7GHz. The 2920 XM, with it's higher TDP, can probably stabilize at 3.0GHz on four cores.

 

The 6970M is an underclocked 6850. It doesn't come close to the 6870 at all.

 

Yeah, my 6870 is as thick as a laptop and barely fits into my Antec 902. It would take a miracle to get that into a "laptop". It is a beast though. Tripled/quadrupled the framerates from my 9800m GS all while running at higher settings. I no longer have to play the FRAPs/setting-change/FRAPs/setting-change game anymore. Just set everything to high and laugh manically.

 

... How much does it weight...? 2 fans for each component lol?

 

The cooling also has a lot to do with it -- if you can keep the 2820QM temps down at 3.1GHz, it will be happy to run at that speed all the time. The flip side is also true: if you try to stuff it into a 13" machine, don't expect it to stabilize at 2.7GHz.

 

Weight = back-breaking. Battery life = 30 mins. Cooling = mediocre. Overclock-ability = low.

Honestly, if you want desktop performance with desktop components, why not just build a desktop? It's much more flexible in terms of upgrading/overclocking and isn't bolted to the desk. (You can still take it to lan parties and such - just have a friend help you carry the monitor up for you.)

 

But you can't lug your whole desktop around if you travels a lot.
Plus these desktop replacements also use less power and easier to put away than a desktop as well.

@op: I think you would probably have to wait for Computex sometime in June. That's where Clevo (Sager's ODM) usually annoucnce their new product. And then probably another wait till the end of the year before you start to see any laptops shipping out from Sager.

 

Not 2 for each, 1 for CPU, 1 for chipset/RAM, and 1x each for crossfire/sli GPUs. Though, yeah, it's crazy, might as well just buy a desktop.

 

The only problem is that I am in the airforce and will be traveling A LOT. Why instead of owning a desktop tower, i could pretty much own a desktop laptop. I don't give about battery life or weight. I just want something that's fast and can play whatever a desktop can (for the most part). I doubt it will take until june. I might just opt for the 6970m crossfire and core i7 950 though if i feel like it will take months to come out with the 2600k.

 

it won't take months to come out but i7-950 will get owned... seriously , worth waiting..

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