New CULV chip?

I thought I remember reading an article about Intel releasing updated C2D CULV chips sometime in the near future. Can't seem to find it now though. Does anybody have any insight as to when Intel will be releasing them? I'm not in a big rush to buy a laptop so I can hold off until a new release if its in the foreseeable future.

I'm pretty interested in the Acer 3810T

 

Hi there.
Do you happen to remember where did you read this?
I think some old links are found on the Intel Processor Family Guide thread in my link...if that helps...

 

Here you go
http://gadgetmix.com/index/intel-al...0-su4100-su4500-su4700-and-su7300-and-su7800/

 

Thank you very much.

Anybody care to take a guess how long it will be until we units with these chips shipping?

 

The new SU4100 processor is already out, it is used in the Acer Timeline 1810TZ being sold in China and I believe other locations. Sadly, it is not available in the U.S, which I hope will come soon!

The rest of the processors should be out in notebooks in late October, by Windows 7 release, same goes for the new mobile Core i7 processors.

 

The SU7300 is also out, in fact I ordered the Asus UL30a-a1 with this processor.

 

From what I see the specs of the SU7x00 are the same as the SU9x00 minus the ghz numbers. So, what is the difference between these two cpu, I cant' seem to find it.

 

I didn't realize it but I guess Acer could be using the SU9600 like Lenovo's X series. According to the benchmarks it provides a considerable boost over the SU9400 currently being used. I guess maybe its the price of the chip?

 

7x00 means 2-3MB L2 Cache, 9x00 means 6MB L2 cache on regular CPUs.
second number determines performance, and the third (5 normally) if there is an overclocked version of the original

 

I think the su7300 wasn't only a little slower (1.3ghz) than the su9400 (1.4ghz i think), but I think it's not capable of 64bit either (don't know enough about laptops to see any problems other than ~3.4gb max ram available then since I'm assuming that means it'd have to use a 32bit OS)

 

Wait, can you please edit that post and make it a tad less complex?
You are saying that the SU7300 is not 64bit capable?

 

The SU7300 is 64-bit capable, just like every other current CPU on the market (hence why there are systems with 64-bit OS installed and working on them).

 

I knew it was 64bit, but what about the other stuff he said are those correct?

 

Wiki has a good page with all the new CPUs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Ultra-Low_Voltage

 

About the clock speeds?
Lower numbers mean lower specs, obviously, in the Intel world.
First stands for cache amount family. 9xxx 6MB/8-7 3MB/6 2MB/4 1MB/and 3 512KB IIRC
Second number stands for performance in speed. The higher the faster (normally)
Third number is the version. xx00 is standard and xx50 is overclocked version of same CPU.

64bit is the command setting in the CPU. All current CPUs are 64bit capable.

This is true for regular CPUs. In the CULV matter, I honestly dont quite get it. But I still think higher number better performance.

 

Hold up. The SU9400 only has 3MB of L2 cache, not 6MB. Its the same as the SU7300 in terms of cache. The only difference I can find is the clock speed.

 

Yes that is the thing. They keep telling me to look at the wikipedia page but I can't find a difference other than clock speed as you stated. And the SU7300 cost the same as the SU9600 according to wikipedia to make me think that the SU7300 could be equal to the SU9x00 on terms of performance?

 

You can ignore the prices on Wiki. These are not what the manufacturers pay.

SU7300 is, other than clockspeed, the same as SU9400. So (of course) it's slightly slower.

Not that anyone in the real world is going to notice the difference between 1.3GHz and 1.4GHz.

 

Unless I'm reading incorrectly, it looks as thought the chips set to be released are lower powered than what is in the 3810T (the SU9400) If so I guess there wouldn't be any reason to hold off on my purchase. Any advice?

 

SU9600 will be slightly faster than SU9400.

My advice: buy what you need and wait if you can wait. Prices will drop the coming weeks. Many new models are arriving the 22nd of October together with Windows 7. Which also spares you the upgrade process.

 

The Lenovo X301 currently uses the SU9600, can't find anybody else who uses it. At the price they are though I could buy two 3810's and still have enough to buy a home server, (which I plan on.)

Either way I think you are right. From what I'm reading it seems like many, many new models are set to be released next month. This should at least start pushing prices in the category down.

 

Well the Sony Vaio TT has the SU9600 it but they stop selling that in North America.

 

More models with SU9600 will come soon I expect.

 

I hope at a reasonable price point. At least reasonable for a CULV

 

There are few laptops that use the SU9600 such as the Dell E4200 and Fujitsu T2020. The Toshiba R600, Fujitsu P8020, Asus UX50V, Dell Adamo, and Acer 3810T/4810T currently all have the SU9400 (which isn't noticeably slower), but I'm sure they will get the SU9600 as an option shortly.

 

All are nice options. I just don't see the value in these high end portables especially when they are running CULV. What I find so attractive about the 3810 is that it has similar specs but for half to one third the cost.

 

Well, they are extremely thin and light, and they are "premium" so, a high price tag. I think the price is more a marketing gimmick, the pricier it is, the more value the consumer looks on the notebook (some principles on this) so the laptop gets a good view, since it is expensive it is worth it (to the consumer, according to this theories). That is the only real explanation I can think of for their price, because it is true that there are other, exactly the same hardware, but a lot less pricier. But then again, those models dont have the same "prestige" or "rank" as these. (marketing)