New Laptop Battery

I'm looking buy a replacement battery for my HP Pavilion.

Should I go with the HP cell or would the generic cell be fine?
How do generic cells compare with those of HP?

If I do purchase a generic cell, is there any online vendor is recommended or is to be avoided.

Thanks in advance.

 

Go with the OEM battery.

 

Hp cell ... u don't want ur new battery exploding in ur face do u?

 

Ok sorry it took a while for me to get back.

I've been doing some research and I'm looking at the following on ebuybatteries.

http://www.ebuybatteries.com/product/laptop_batteries/HP/HP-P-EX942AA.htm

It's a 12 cell which is actually very nice to have over the current 8 cell and the store does have pretty good ratings according to resellerratings.com.

Anyone had any other experiences with them? I'll mull over this before buying after New Years

 

I can't get on ebay here at work, but I priced the same battery, at the site you linked, that I just bought on ebay for $36.75(free shipping), and it was $84.00 +shipping.

And, the ebay battery actually has a higher capacity (sold as 78,000mah, reports as 84,000) vs the one available thru that site (72,000mah).

Ebay seller was 'thebatteryconnection', had a great deal with them. 'Buy it now' to my door was 3 days. Ships from the US.

If you must go with aftermarket (dell wanted $155.99 for the same battery, so I can't blame you there at all).

 

but do that at ur risk.. u don't want the battery exploding as i said earlier...

 

I am well aware that non OEM batteries can explode but I also know that there have been recall on OEM batteries that have exploded as well.

 

The seller I mentioned offers a 3 year warranty, so (other than some chemical burns), no worries.

While it is fact that generic batteries have a higher statistical history of exploding, the fact is that ANY Li-Ion battery can explode. The nature of the beast...

 

I'm actually less worried about the chemical burns and more worried about losing my data..even though I have it backed up...

Jeremysdad did you have any issues with the battery such at it being loose or anything?

Thanks.

 

^^^ Nice Spam, Spammy.

OT: No, I have had not a single issue with it. In fact, it was slated to be a '7800mah' battery, but is actually reported as 8400 by Battery Bar and 3 different Linux distros, which is the rating of an OEM Dell battery.

 

sighs, the belief that just because they are not OEM equating to the batteries being dangerous is a total exaggeration.

i frequently travel to china and have been to many of the places where they both sell and manufacture these batteries, u'd be surprised by the fact that the so called 'OEM' batteries are made from more or less the same people just the difference is the ever slightly sticter Q/C and the lamentation of the company's sticker on the final product.

In all realistic applications, non-OEM batteries are just as good products as the OEM ones; the extravagant amount of money to buy them is simply a ploy for HP or whatever company to make more money cuz of slightly better packaging or stickers.

 

Excellent post.When I hear people making these statements, I think to myself: How much Consumer's Digest can you possibly watch, to where you can no longer think for yourself? It's equivalent to generic groceries: a lot of them are the same exact thing, just in a bland package.

Question: If this was such a rampant problem, does anyone here know anyone that has had one of these batteries explode? Personally?

 

Not an excellent post!

How many people know anything about Li-Ion battery construction and safety measures? I know I don't know enough.

But I do know that the cheapest batteries offered is because there is no safety circuits nor other safety testing done to ensure as close as possible 100% reliability with these products.

How many batteries would you go through in a typical notebooks life? Is saving $50 or $100 over that time period worth it? Not to me.

Just because people don't have problems with tens of thousands of these knock offs, doesn't mean the next person won't.

My computer and my personal safety is worth the one or two times surcharge I might pay for an OEM battery over the life of that specific computer.

Think of it as insurance - we don't like paying for it, but we're glad it's there when we need it (even if we don't know we needed it, in this case).

 

generic batteries really aren't ticking time bombs just because they don't have a company's sticker placed across it. both are made in china, likely in similar if not identical factories. statistically looking at it, has there been a statistical number showing generic batteries being more dangerous and exploding consistently more often than OEM? no, so why the fear surrounding it?

it simply is absurb to pay like 150$ for a battery when the computer itself it probably $800 at best in these times of technological advancement. is li-on technology worth all that much, probably not. the $150 just goes to buy a piece of mind.

OEM batteries have had their issues of explosions and recalls, does the sticker of approval then really mean all that much than your own better judgment of just how much something is really worth vs what a company tells you? li-on is li-on so long as it is built right, not whether or not a company puts their logo on it and then charging you 2x times the price for it.

 

Not trying to be argumentative, seriously, but these blanket statements are not good to spread around. You yourself said you don't know enough about li-ion batteries to know these are safe or not, so you are, in essence, spreading misinformation (not lies, I am not calling you a liar ). Case in point, the one I got does in fact have overcharge protection, overheat protection, etc. It's a Dell battery without the Dell sticker. Even has the same push-button LED charge-o-meter on the bottom.

Spending 5 times the price for an equivalent product is not like buying insurance, imho. More like buying magic beans.

Agree to disagree?

As an example: https://www.dellbatteryprogram.com/ <-- Dell recall of Dell batteries, made by Sony. Any manufacturer can have some bad ones come off the lot. I almost look at the li-ion battery situation as an urban legend. I ask again, does anyone reading this thread know someone PERSONALLY that has had a notebook, or any other, li-ion battery overheat and catch fire? I think the issue is much less rampant than MSM would have you believe. It surely made for a catchy story, though. Must have been a slow news week.

 

Hey!

Just because I don't have an electrical engineering degree, doesn't mean I don't know anything about batteries or electrical circuits. What I do know though, scares me off any 'bargain' battery deal I may come across. These are not simple devices, nor interchangeable 'toys'. There can be good even great examples of them, but how do you and I, mere consumers, discern those?

I agree that 'blanket' statements are not good to spread around - even by me.

My point is that when the price of a product goes down, there is always a reason. First, it is not equivalent in QC, and second it may even have required parts missing ( required by each countries safety standards). That is the chance that I will not risk.

Everyone makes their own choices but if I had to save $50 or $100 on a battery because I'm out of work, I would probably choose to sell the notebook than buy a battery for it.

Cheers!

 

I love watching both sides and their arguments.

There is always potential for battery exploding b/c no one will have complete QC. I'll accept that.
Rebuilding a battery by buying new cells is another option.. but I don't think my EE skills is good enough for that.

I'll take the risk with a non-OEM as soon as my work check comes in to buy a new battery and I'll post some comments once I test it out.

 

lol. Good show, man.

My thoughts were two-fold: Might need the ability to use it unplugged for some future job, and having a functional battery would make it worth more, if I needed to sell it. Not out of work yet, but we have to save where we can.

The rest, well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Well, understand that I do acknowledge that there are probably horrible generic batteries floating around. There are horrible knock-off-everything-elses floating around, and I would expect this to be no different. However, if you do some research, and buy from a reputable dealer, then you can expect at least good, if not great (my case) results.

In the end, it is up to the individual which way they should go. We can't hold their hand, or shove them through the door, but we can provide our opinions, no more-no less.

Have a great New Year, Sir! The best to you and yours!

 

Thanks for the pleasant exchange.

Just want to say, research is more important than raw materials and labour in determining raw costs. A company is entitled to get some of it's money back on that too.

Also, I highly doubt that $2000 would put a new car together - unless you could also 'borrow' for free the fabs with the billion dollar setups that would allow you to do so, so effectively.

Didn't realize that you were stating a fact when you mentioned being laid off - truly sorry to hear that.

Wishing you and your family All the best in the New Year - cute little boy you have there! Do your best to keep him healthy and smiling.