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    New OCZ Solid Series SSD

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by receph, Nov 6, 2008.

  1. receph

    receph Notebook Evangelist

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    Announced this week, the OCZ Solid Series SSD is a bargain
    I was planning to get the 30GB version for ~$90, to use as the boot drive, Vista

    Then I saw NewEgg selling the OCZ Core Series V2 for a little less after rebate.

    Now the question is whether to wait for the new one or to get the V2, which,
    by the way, has faster specs.

    But I don't really care about 155 vs 170 MB/s.

    What I do care about is the power consumption

    I called OCZ and was told there are no specs on the Solid Series yet.
    I asked about the V2 and they said it consumes 1.125-1.625W

    Not too rosy, esp. compared to the Fujitsu which idles at .7W

    So I ain't gettin' one of these babies until they stop suckin' juice like a thirsty toddler

    What sez you?
     
  2. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    1.125-1.625 on idle?
     
  3. Phil

    Phil Retired

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    Don't know if you are aware of the slow random writes of SSD drives with JMicron controllers. If not you may want to read up here. Vista writes a lot to disk, so installing it on a SSD with write problems will result in stuttering.
     
  4. FrankTabletuser

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    The OCZ Core is the worst choice as a boot drive. Just visit the OCZ forums and read the problems 99% of Core users have: Lags.
    I don't think that the Solid series will be better.
    Good OCZ SSD's are the OCZ SATA II SSD's, but this is a high end SSD, but this SSD works, not so the Core series.
     
  5. Jaycee8980

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    The V2's really didnt fix much from the originals. I am not sure if OCZ overlooked the fact it wasnt the design itself but the controller (Micron). Either way, I would stay away from these. People have not only have problems with slowdowns, but many others.

    If you are set on an SSD I recommend you either:

    1. Jump on an Intel X-25
    or
    2. Wait till the price of SLC drives drop in price and jump on one of those
     
  6. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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  7. receph

    receph Notebook Evangelist

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    that's all the guy had

    1.125 must be on idle/standby, and 1.625 during write
     
  8. receph

    receph Notebook Evangelist

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    True.
    But I've managed to minimize writes to bootdisk using ramdisk and symbolic links.
    Also with 4GB, I don't use swapfile.

    Now, if I can only do without hibernation...

    And, thanks for the link
     
  9. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    the slc prices just dropped to half. he talks about getting 30gb bootdisk for 90$. for $199.00, he get an slc 32gb bootdisk, mtron 3500, on rocketdisk.

    for twice the price, much more stable performance.

    yes, it costs more. but everyone who wants an ssd wants it for having something better than the cheap thing (the hdd) => spend a little more, and get much more.

    we should make a no-ocz-core icon to use :)
     
  10. receph

    receph Notebook Evangelist

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    looks delicious
     
  11. mobytoby

    mobytoby Notebook Evangelist

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    Intel X25 has stuttering problems too.
    Stick to samsung or mtron if you ask me.
     
  12. receph

    receph Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm getting the mtron

    Hope it doesn't stutter, but it's no Intel when it comes to power consumption, either

    Here is what the spec. sheet says:

    Idle 1.13W
    Sustained Read 1.41W
    Random Read 1.40W
    Sustained Wirte 3.03W (!)
    Random Write 3.01W (!)

    Alarming, since it's 1W more than the Fujitsu drive in my T400
    However, since I've minimized writes to my boot drive, it won't be much of a
    problem during regular use.

    <= ~1.4W is better than 1.9-2.1W of the HDD for reads.

    Yes, it is not by much, but that, plus the speed, I am hoping, will make it worthwhile.
     
  13. mr__bean

    mr__bean Notebook Evangelist

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    My X-25 has no "stuttering problems" at all, and performs flawlessly
     
  14. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    But the stuttering problem does exist on some Intels reported by people from this forum in the new SSD thread.
     
  15. IntelUser

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    "Stuttering" as in OCZ Core series stuttering where your system freezes for couple of minutes and also experiencing delay while doing simple MSN chat?? No.

    I thought I had a stutter(X25-M) but I went back to hard drives and they do same thing so I must have been mistaken. Regardless, unlike a hard drive where having a frozen program sort of slows the system down, the SSD does not care if the program is frozen when running others.
     
  16. Xiphias

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    There's "stutter," and then there's "OCZ Core stutter." Obviously important not to equate the two.
     
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    Just wanted to update this thread... it seems the solid series doesnt suffer from the stutters that the core series suffered from, or at least suffers very little from it...
    just check out the reviews on newegg:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Description=ocz solid&bop=And&Order=PRICE

    Considering they're cheaper than any other (usable) ssd, perhaps we should give these a try
     
  18. DickyCheung22

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    Look great, I hope to buy it too
     
  19. jedisolo

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    I have the 250 GB Solid Series and it's a snappy drive, haven't used it as a boot drive though.
     
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    If it has a a JMicron controller I will not touch it with a 10 foot pole.
    I really would advise people against buying it ... companies like OCZ must also be punished for pushing crappy technology on to consumers. Hit them where it hurts!
     
  21. Nikolas

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    I wouldn't trust Ocz either...
     
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    Wow.. the 30GB is less than $73 shipped on Amazon.com. Tempting for one of my older XP notebooks. The Solid Series seems to be better than the Core Series from the reviews I've read.
     
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    I just upgraded with a Solid series 2 in my macbook pro, (late '08 early
    09) and it's a dream.

    no stuttering, just a massive speed increase in, basically whatever access the disk.

    the only problem i've had is my fault, i partitioned it with MBR (master boot record) as it's Partition map instead of a GUID Partition map which caused some patching problems. Once it was formatted properly i've felt nothing but speed.

    maybe it's your OS. > ;)

    "crappy tech on conusmers" is a bit much to say, and in my opinion OCZ is getting it's name dragged in the mud by "enthusiasts" who have yet to even install a SSD.

    Thank god for them. There the only ones marketing 250gb SSD's for $650.

    enjoy your intel $800 120gb drives. I'm getting 99% of the performance for less money and double capacity.
     
  24. Durand4l

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    by the way people, a quick google of the problem will show you it's the OS's doing it, not the hardware. All the OS's (OS X seems to know how to handle a SSD since apple ships a few systems with them) Precache with standard hard drives and vista will defrag on the fly, not good for SSDs.

    /facepalm
     
  25. Humper

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    I just bought a G.Skill 256 for $499... I digress. OCZ has a track record of shipping inconsistent product. I voted with my wallet on them a few years back when they were selling overspec'ed RAM which didn't meet their own ratings. For the amount of money involved with their products a little more QC should be mandatory. We all know now that JMicron's controller was suspect. Hell, JMicron knew. I almost bought a Core drive last year in hopes that they'd changed their business practices. Looks like they might not have. :rolleyes: