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    New SSD for ~$350?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Xtt, Dec 17, 2009.

  1. sgilmore62

    sgilmore62 uber doomer

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    Why? The G1's still have excellent small write performance and while they do not support TRIM and have slightly lower sequential reads which are practically meaningless compared to random small write performance they do afaik have real time performance restoring firmware. If you plan to have a RAID setup TRIM is useless and you will want a controller based performance restoring firmware such as is found in previous firmwares.
     
  2. vostro1400user

    vostro1400user Notebook Deity

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    if it's compulsory, i have to add more words on that link to reflect the best bit: $385 for X-25M G1 160G, for a post which is not discussing sth serious content, i won't bother to do the editor job, but i do or quote something for a good link which is worth more time than just a price referring...
     
  3. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    sgilmore, I'm not putting down the real performance and even advantages (RAID) that G1's can offer some users.

    But for me, TRIM, 40% increase in write speed and the issues I discussed just a few minutes ago in this post:

    See:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5642860&postcount=1882



    Have my mind set up to spend more, but 'spend it once'.

    Cheers!
     
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    leaftye Notebook Consultant

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    No one recommended the 40 gig Kingston/Intel ssd? Granted, it does have some performance limitations, but does meet the requirements listed and it only costs $85 with rebate....or at least that's what it was supposed to cost if I could find it.
     
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    I can't recommend it just because of its size, on a notebook.

    Unless all we use the computer for is creating txt files and/or web-browsing, what does an effective 18GB of usable space give us (I'm assuming default Win 7 x64 here @ about 20GB)?

    You may state that an external data drive is easily able to expand the effective storage space, true.

    But, at the cost of any speed benefits from the SSD, and with the potential to not only more easily physically damage the mech external drive, but also expose it to (easier) possible theft too.

    Bottom line; a downgrade, instead of an upgrade - all things considered. Especially taking into account the OP's 320GB original drive size.
     
  7. leaftye

    leaftye Notebook Consultant

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    Still though, he said he only needed 32 gigs. Recommending a bigger hard drive, assuming all else equal, is asking him to waste his money. I'd personally want much more, even though scanned textbooks are the largest thing on my hard drive, but I'm not the one saying I only need 32 gigs.
     
  8. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Just one notice - if he needs 32GB - well, Intel states for the X25-M that you can fill up 80% without performance loss - now let's assume that's the same for the "budget line" - the 40GB one - then that's exactly 32GB - no space left.

    In that respect the 80GB drive is better - it leaves room.

    At the moment I'm using 31GB on my 160GB Intel drive - I had 11GB more on it earlier - if I go on holiday it can be more still - its good to know I have space left.
     
  9. leaftye

    leaftye Notebook Consultant

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    He should only use 32 gigs, yet he only needs 32 gigs, so if he only uses 32 gigs, there's no problem. More isn't better if it's not going to be used.
     
  10. sgilmore62

    sgilmore62 uber doomer

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    He said he needed at least 32gb and didn't want to spend more than $350. if he gets more than 32gb for $350 the money isn't wasted--he still gets the space.
     
  11. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You're missing the point I think - you buy a SSD for shock protection and performance - and in that case he needs a little bit more and finds he doesn't get the performance he needs - if it were a 50/60GB drive - maybe, but 40GB only works if it has the same performance as the X25-M series.

    Would you send a soldier to the battlefield with a handgun only? Small calibre? Say Iraq, Afghanistan? - No, you'd give him at least a machine pistol to be sure to carry along, preferably a machine gun though.

    Its the same here - you don't get the minimum - you get something that guarantees the performance required and leaves some breathing space.

    Intel X25-M 80GB G2 should do the trick :)
     
  12. leaftye

    leaftye Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, the 40 gig is barely adequate, but it does meet the requirements he asked for. If he said he would use as much as xx gigs, then that would be his needs. Obviously if you think you might occasionally put xxxx gigs on your drive, it'd be dumb to request xx gigs unless the impossible is now possible.

    Terrible analogy.

    An analogy closer to this is if you had a buddy asking for recommendations on a small sporty car that only had to be fast enough to get up to highway speeds fast enough so as not to obstruct traffic and doesn't want to spend more than $100,000. I'd probably recommend a Miata or a S2000. In this analogy, you'd be recommending him a Z06.

    While I'm of the mindset that if a little is good, then much more is much better, but that's typically not how I'd approach requirements set forth by others. Sure, I might try to get the requirements changed, but I wouldn't recommend much more than what it takes to meet the requirements unless it's somehow less expensive to do so.

    Still though, there's not much reason to drag this out. The smaller drive actually doesn't perform as well as the 80 gig....or at least it shouldn't be able to. Performance wise, I consider Intel's 80 gig to set the minimum bar for which I'd recommend a SSD.
     
  13. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i would consider the 40gb ssd only for special installation myself, too. even while i know the size is big enough. i still would only consider it for mostly "thin clients". like media centers, or such..

    or systems with an additional hdd + very light use on the os side.

    i could consider it for all work systems at our company, though (that's around 2000 systems). why? because right now they have 40gb partitioned, too.. and at work, most data is outside the actual system, on some servers.

    but if it's the only disk in a system, no, i would not consider it.

    but not because of performance reasons, it should be fine.


    but if one would chose it, i would not put a 64bit os on it if not needed. win7 can work with 7gb, then, and give enough space theoretically.

    but i think it's always nice to have (enough_storage_for_everything_one_ever_needs * 2) storage. i at least chose like this. never failed me.
     
  14. Xtt

    Xtt Notebook Consultant

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    Basically this :)

    I wanted as much space as possible but given the limitations of my budget, I wanted the most stability first so I specified a minimum amount of space I would need.
     
  15. vostro1400user

    vostro1400user Notebook Deity

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    now that intel G1 160G down to $340:
    "OK GUYS HERE IS HOW YOU KILL THE MARKET:
    NEW PRICE:

    $360 PAYPAL
    $340 MONEY ORDER

    NO MORE PRICE DROPS. NO MORE BEST OFFERS. FIRST COME FIRST SERVED."
     
  16. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    nice price.. <2$/GB, then.. :)


    crap. I'm too tired for math :)

    it's a bit more than 2$/GB... still nice.
     
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