New battery almost dead...arrgghh

Hi,

In my acer 1810tz I have a new battery, charged maybe 10 times times over 2 weeks and worked great, 6+ hours runtime.

Yesterday I used until totally empty, immediately charged, after 12 hours it shows 1.6% charge level, and when disconnected last only a few mins.

Any ideas on how to resolve anyone.

Thanks

 

Contact Acer for a replacement

or

Since you've only had the laptop for 2 weeks, contact whoever you bought it from and ask for a battery / full laptop exchange.

 

Opps, I meant I only had the battery for 2 weeks, and its an after market battery.

Anyhows I took it out and re inserted several time and its now charging.

Will check the contacts once charger.

 

that's the risk with aftermarkets. poor quality at best

 

That's patently untrue.

Unpredictable quality is the problem. Plenty of people have bought good batteries at good prices from the aftermarket. And plenty of people have bought junk.

You can't predict which one you will get through.

 

Incorrect! In fact that's the whole reason behind name branding. It's a fact that no-name brand batteries (as well as many other products) have a higher probability of being defective.

In the battery business, manufacturing and components are the key; and it's a fact that no-name manufactures cut cost by being lacks in both these areas. The main reason the batteries are so much cheaper is because these cost cutting measures are readily apparent in them.

Still, to be fair, it is possible to get a no-name battery that performs just as well and lasts just as long as it's name brand equivalent.

 

You are making a few assumptions there. Mostly that the name-brand OEM makers and the aftermarket are somehow segregated and that it is possible to define where one ends and another begins.

It's unlikely that the OEM brands will ever publish warranty or even add-on sales figures for laptop batteries. There is no way to tell if an OEM has better or worse battery lifetime figures than any given third-party maker/seller. The reliability of a manufacturers supply chain is a more closely guarded secret than financial sales/profitability figures are.

Accessories, including batteries, are a cash and profitability cow for the OEMs. And it begins with buying the most product for the least price with a fiddle factor thrown in for warranty replacements.

The people who actually manufacture the batteries do the same thing. Produce as much product for the least price with another fiddle factor thrown in for warranty replacement.

OEM specifications outside of electrical and mechanical fitment aren't usually a factor in the accessory market. This is a dirty little secret when manufacturing in China. Things can be produced and delivered at such a high volume and at such a low cost that the reliability or longevity of a product must be designed in from the start rather than enforced via some kind of legal contract.

The enforcement of contract law, copyright, trademarks, and patents as most westerners are familiar with simply does not apply in China (or India for that matter). Nor does any kind of manufacturing exclusivity. It is nothing for an accessory maker to keep their production lines running after filling an OEM order with the resulting product (more or less identical to the OEM stuff) showing up in markets all over the world.

When manufacturing in China, you pays your money and you takes your chances, whether you are a huge OEM like HP or Dell or if you are an end user looking for a cheap battery.

And this is why it's a crap shoot when buying batteries from China regardless of whose artwork is on the package or the plastic casing.

 

This is true, although technically, it applies; but pragmatically never enforced.

Ahhahah, don't worry about it, even Apple gets their products produced in China. Since 1998, the clear leader for quality (for electronics and computer components) is a MNC with its main production facilities located in China.

The problem isn't with buying from this firms or similar ones; the problem is buying copy-cat products that have been reversed engineered.

But it looks like, in this case, our friend didn't manage to plug the laptop charger adequately

If it all else fails, you can always hook up a car battery, build a flyback converter for around $10, for around 40 hour run-times.

Or may I suggest a trained monkey and a hand-cranked generator?

 

Apple is almost alone in the number of US-based employees it has in place and actively monitoring manufacturing in the factories right down to the assembly floors. In this they may be the exception that points out how things work in many/most Chinese manufacturing plants.

 

I hate to start an argument, but in this case, you are wrong
Most OEM's do not allocate any significant workforce to the aforementioned ODM, including Apple (until of late).

The recent highly publicized top management visit to a specific factory probably gave you this impression.

AFAIK, US has already lost out in component/comptuer hardware manufacturing, in terms of price and quality. Personally, I'd prefer components produced in Germany... but its probably because of my blind allegiance to Infineon
(For SMPS, its the way to go!)

 

It turned out to be nothing to do with the contacts.

I totally discharged the battery and removed it, placed it back in and it charged reporting heavy wear, 80% wear !.

Cycled it 3 more times and eventually reset it self, now reports 0.2% wear and run for 6 hours as before....

Prior to the issue it was been charged many times from 98% to 100%.

 

Plus, I got after market battery for £28, acer original was £108 !!!

 

lol good luck.. hope ur laptop doesn't burn one of these days

 

So far the 2 batteries I bought off of Ebay have been misses. The 12 cell I got for my dv5t won't fully charge. It will hit 100% and go into a cycle of charge/stop/charge/stop even thought it is showing a full charge.

When you take it off of the charger, it will rapidly deplete.