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    Nividia GTX 285M

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Blacky, Aug 31, 2009.

  1. Blacky

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    Has anyone heard of this card? I've seen it on Laptopvideo2go.

    < NVIDIA_DEV.060F.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285M"

    Along side with the GTS 360M and other upcoming mobile cards.

    Probably due to be released with Intel's new Calpella and Arrandel platform.

    By the way, Calpella should be official in about one month and Arrandel somewhere in early January 2010.
     
    Blacky, Aug 31, 2009
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    Yeah I saw that line today while updating my 8800GTX driver. A shot in the dark but maybe there might also be a mobile HD4890, who knows? :rolleyes:
     
    Notebooka, Aug 31, 2009
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    Probably a higher clocked GTX 280M. Unless they use the new core architecture on that one, there's nothing special about it.
     
    Howitzer225, Aug 31, 2009
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    Yep, probably not much different than the current GTX280m, hence why it's only the 285 and not the 290 or 300. :D
     
    BobXX, Aug 31, 2009
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    I would hope by now since theyve already made several GPUs on the 40nm processor, with GDDR5 along with the the actual mobile GT200 core, that they would be smart enough to make a true GT200m high performance card. I dont really think many enthusiasts ( the people who will actually buy that card ) will be fooled if its just another rehash of the G92.
     
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  6. sgogeta4

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    They're having difficulty w/ poor yields for their 40nm parts. Even their desktop cards haven't transitioned to 40nm yet. The 285M will be a G92M rehash. I have yet to see the new 40nm 2xxM parts, so I wouldn't count on anything new until 3xxM series.
     
    sgogeta4, Aug 31, 2009
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    Laughable. It's already missed the release of the D900F, M980NU, and M17x, why now?
     
    anothergeek, Aug 31, 2009
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  8. sgogeta4

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    LoL, because nVidia can?
     
    sgogeta4, Aug 31, 2009
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  9. LisuPoland

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    Umm.... probably because it's for D950F, M985NU and M18x that are yet still to be released ? :D
     
    LisuPoland, Aug 31, 2009
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    Arent the GT 220 and GT 240 40nm parts? Not only that, but I thought the issues with TMSCs 40nm fab were over? And whats more is Nvidia did claim over 100 design wins...Idk, maybe im just a bit too optimistic. :eek:
     
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  11. Blacky

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    As Sgogeta said, the transition to 40nm hasn't been as easy as predicted. The truth is that the current 280M can take a lot of OC, so they might just slam in a 128 shader core with 650/1700/950 clocks and call it 285M.

    We will just have to wait and see.
     
    Blacky, Aug 31, 2009
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  12. Beatsiz

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    I am not going to be excited about ANY mobile card until the GT300m's come out with cGPU and GPGPU functions and whatnot crazy powerful rebirth of a legend like 8800 :]
     
    Beatsiz, Aug 31, 2009
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  13. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    I won't get excited about video cards until an integrated unit can play Crysis on high.

    Kidding, but wouldn't that be awesome?
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Aug 31, 2009
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  14. sgogeta4

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    Yes, GTS 250M/260M, GT 240M/230M/220M, and G 210M are supposed to be 40nm but I yet to see a GPUZ screenshot or other actual proof that it is not just a 55nm rebadge. The GTS models are even supposed to have GDDR5.
     
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  15. LisuPoland

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    Well it is predicted that till 2020 we will get notebooks so powerful, that only OC geeks will care what's inside them... :D
     
    LisuPoland, Aug 31, 2009
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    That's going to take another 3-5 years minimum. I still can't play Morrowind (which was released 7 years ago) maxed out on a GMA 4500 and get totally fluid FPS.
     
    theelectic, Aug 31, 2009
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    LOL u can't compare intel and NVDIA integrated grpahics. Intel integrated graphics are lousy to the core......
     
    sean473, Aug 31, 2009
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    I'm counting on Intel's Larrabee for an IGP (or GPGPU) to rival Nvidia/ATI in their offering. Rumored to have GDDR5 memory.
     
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  19. sgogeta4

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    Also rumored to have up to a 300W TDP.
     
    sgogeta4, Aug 31, 2009
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    Yes, but the vast majority of Intel laptops have Intel integrated graphics. Its a shame, since many of them have powerful processors, lots of ram, fast HDD, etc. but just integrated graphics crashes the whole party. At least be able to add an external GPU to them, but Expresscard is too limited in bandwidth, create an external PCI-Express X16 link to a laptop please!!!
     
    Rahul, Aug 31, 2009
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  21. ganzonomy

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    Rahul, have you seen the vidock?
    ViDock: Read away

    It's a middle ground between full pci-e x16 bandwidth and no GPU at all...
     
    ganzonomy, Aug 31, 2009
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  22. Judicator

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    I think he has, which is why he's complaining about Expresscard bandwidth limits.
     
    Judicator, Sep 1, 2009
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    -- sorry it's off topic --
    @ ganzonomy
    Have you posted somewhere results of your beast - SAGER NP8662? I'm now searching for information about GTX 260M and is it compatible with my laptop. And if it is I will buy it for it (If somebody knows where I can find it is welcome, because I found it on only one place and I think they want to tear my skin off for it :)). I also want to see the performance of it.
     
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  24. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    The Clevo forum would be a better place to ask that.

    But I'll help you out. The GTX 260m is perfectly compatible with an NP8662. Well as long as it's not an Asus model.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Sep 2, 2009
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    Blacky, Dec 3, 2009
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    Should be GDDR3 at 1000MHz, = 64GB/sec Memory Bandwidth.
     
    kaltmond, Dec 3, 2009
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  27. Blacky

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    Right, sorry about that. Well, that's not actually any major change. The GDDR of the 9800M GTX was 1000 MHz, the only thing that stops it from using it at 1000 is the MXM 2.1, which is no longer a problem since MXM 3.0.

    The only major change is probably the frequencies, given that these cards should be made on the 40nm tech... those must be some crazy clocks.
     
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    Drawing 100W of juice probably means it's still 55nm tech.
     
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    I bet it's due to low 40nm yields. They wanted to push out their "new" workstation cards ASAP, so they just reused extra GTX 280M (G92b) cards. Workstation cards have typically been a half generation behind anyways. The FX 3700M was still 65nm.
     
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    Blacky, Dec 25, 2009
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  31. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    ehhhh

    I would try it only if you know how to blind flash. The 3.0 is based on the HE ... but the odds are very low for that to work
     
    The_Moo™, Dec 25, 2009
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    It won't be the first time I had to blind flash... :).
     
    Blacky, Dec 25, 2009
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  33. The_Moo™

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    go for it then. But the only benefit would be higher clocks
     
    The_Moo™, Dec 25, 2009
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  34. Blacky

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    Not necessarily. It may be also improve stability at higher clocks.
     
    Blacky, Dec 25, 2009
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    ????.....MXM 3 socket does provide better V and does add stability but i doubt the firmware is whats doing it

    i have went into the 700's on the core ... and kept stability while benchmarking, it required a AC unit though :eek:
     
    The_Moo™, Dec 25, 2009
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    You never know... sometimes vBIOS does improve stability and performance slightly.

    The main reason why the MXM 3.0 is more stable it's because it can give more power to the GPU than the MXM 2.1. This is actually the main upgrade from the MXM 3.0 to MXM 2.1. The 3.0 can give power up to 100W while the 2.1 is somewhat limited to 75W.
     
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    ........................... thats why i said that, i just think it will cause some miscommunication ,,,,, thats all but if i were you i would try it



    Just to see i can PM you a 260 BIOS i know its lower clocked but it would just be for a test.
     
    The_Moo™, Dec 25, 2009
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  38. Blacky

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    Sure, send it over. I will see what I can do with it.

    Edit: a 280M BIOS would be better, but at least I can see if the system boots with it.
     
    Blacky, Dec 25, 2009
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    have it to you by tonight :)
     
    The_Moo™, Dec 25, 2009
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