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    Notebook Hard Drive Guide

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Dustin Sklavos, Nov 2, 2005.

  1. Dustin Sklavos

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    by Dustin Sklavos, California USA

    Introduction

    Hard drives! Consumers generally don't give a second thought tohard drivesbeyond "how much space can I get?" And by and large, that may just be okay for most users. But what about when the time comes to upgrade? Or what if you find that your system performance is feeling a bit sluggish?

    More than anything, this is the area where having a notebook really suffers compared to a desktop. We've got desktop level performance out of virtually every other component (even the GPU, impressively enough), but the hard drives are still stuck in the stone age and lagging behind.

    For example, were you aware how much of an effect the speed of the hard drive in your notebook can have on overall performance? The harddrive speed in any computer systemcan beabig bottleneck, but notebook hard drives can be particularly slow.

    So, how can you avoid or at least mitigate this particular notebook pitfall and get the most out of having desktop power in a conveniently mobile form factor? Read on.

    Nomenclature Disclaimer: A "hard drive" is a "hard disk" and a "hard disk" is a "hard drive". They are different names for the exact same thing -- that being a component in your computer used to store program and file datain the form of 1's and 0's. In this article we'll use"hard disk" and "hard drive" interchangeably so that you get used to hearing both terms!

    Specifications

    While hard drives aren't the cornucopia of confusion that processors or RAM can be (and if you don't think this is confusing, you've never worked retail), there are some crucial points to make.

    Before I mention anything, though, I do want to note that by and large, notebook hard drives are upgradeable. Ultraportable notebooks tend not to have upgradeable hard drives, and I'll explain why, but just about any unit larger will.

    The first and oddest distinction I want to make is that your system's storage space isn't just limited to the capacity of the hard disk inside it; external hard disks don't suffer many of the limitations an internal one can. I'm devoting an entire section to external storage; I've had to make a lot of use of it, particularly with digital video editing (which is a notorious bandwidth hog), and it really is an excellent option for users who aren't satisfied even with up to 120GB of internal storage.

    The next major distinction I want to make is in the physical size specification of hard drives. Desktop hard drives are 3.5" drives (3.5" = hard drive diameter measurement of the circular storage disk platter); these drives can also be used in external enclosures to make external hard drives (more on this later).

    But notebook hard disks come in two sizes: 2.5" and 1.8". Most users will never have to worry about 1.8" drives; these never appear in more consumer-oriented retail stores. They're only used in ultraportable notebooks (usually Fujitsu, Sony or ThinkPad ultraportables) and are almost always not upgradeable (at least, not easily).

    2.5" hard disks are what just about everyone uses in their notebook. These have just recently been showing up in numbers in retail chains, likely as a result of the skyrocketing popularity of notebooks in general, and are commonly referred to on packaging just as "notebook hard drives."

    IDE And Serial ATA

    This is a major distinction I need to make, because I know there's going to be confusion about this. These are basically the types of connectors the hard drive uses to connect to the computer.

    That said, I want to make a major point: notebook drives come in IDE and Serial ATA, and desktop drives do, too, but they are NOT intercompatible. Adaptors do exist to connect notebook drives to desktop systems internally, but this is advanced stuff and not worth getting into. Suffice to say, a desktop drive is not going to work in your notebook. Size alone makes sure of that.

    As a notebook user, as far as you're concerned, Serial ATA 3.5" drives don't exist. They're not important in your world. If you're assembling your own external hard disk with your own enclosure (more later), you'll only be using regular IDE (also called Ultra ATA). If you're just going to buy an external hard disk, then you really don't care about this and it doesn't apply to you.

    99% of notebooks today use conventional IDE (or ATA-5/ATA-6 in notebooks) as a connector, and that's what almost all (if not all) the notebook hard disks on the shelf at the local retail store are using. But for you unlucky folks that have a notebook using the newer Serial ATA (or SATA) connector, upgrading is going to be a bit harder. Serial ATA is still really new in the notebook sector and, in this author's opinion, profoundly unnecessary.

    Identifying which kind of connector your notebook uses (and thus, which type of hard disk to get) is fairly simple. If the connector on the back of the drive is a two row grid of pinholes about two-thirds the width of the drive itself, it's IDE. If not, it's Serial ATA.

    If you're even lazier, just go to your manufacturer's site and find out. If it doesn't say, it's IDE. They usually only ever make specific mention of Serial ATA.

    I'm going to make a digression here and this is strictly for hardcore hardware geeks only; if you think the preceding paragraphs were thick, avoid this one.

    A big question is: "Why Serial ATA?" I don't have an answer for you. In desktops Serial ATA makes cable management a lot easier, allows for simpler set up of RAID arrays (even more complex stuff), and the increased bandwidth of Serial ATA in the desktop at least can be made use of with ultra fast drives like Western Digital's Raptor series. So it's not totally useless.

    But in notebooks? I don't see the point. What cables? It's a notebook! The bandwidth improvement doesn't matter, notebook hard disks by and large barely even use up a third of the bandwidth available to them in conventional IDE. RAID arrays are only ever seen in boutique notebooks. Notebook hard disks are still way too slow to justify the move to Serial ATA in notebooks.

    Bottom line: don't seek out Serial ATA in your notebook. It's pointless and you won't see any improvements out of it. I never even saw the difference in my old desktop, and actually went back to regular IDE just because it was easier to set things up on.

    Internal Drives

    Unless you're using an ultraportable notebook, you're going to want a 2.5" hard disk, and it's probably going to be IDE (see my previous spiel).

    Notebook drives come in three different speeds: 4200rpm, 5400rpm, and 7200rpm. These speeds refer to the speed at which the spindle inside the drive rotates. Without going into too much detail, they basically refer mostly to how fast data can be accessed from the drive.

    Now, it stands to reason that the faster a drive spins, the more power it's going to eat. By and large that's true, but it's not the great difference anyone thinks it is. In fact, some 5400rpm drives report lower power usage than 4200s. If anything, the power consumption of a 5400rpm drive is about on par with a 4200. The rare 7200rpm drives do eat a little more power, usually cutting your battery life by a few minutes.

    Another major consideration associated with drive speed is heat. 4200rpm and 5400rpm drives will run much cooler than a 7200rpm drive will, and if your notebook already has heat problems (like mine), the move to a 7200rpm drive won't be a good choice.

    The faster a drive is, the more expensive it's going to be. There's a decent price hike from 4200rpm to 5400rpm and then a massive one from 5400rpm to 7200rpm.

    The general rule seems to be that the sweet spot for drive speed, heat, battery life, price, and performance is a 5400rpm drive.

    Most notebooks come with a 4200rpm drive standard, and that's cripplingly slow. 1.8" drives are always 4200rpm, but they're also smaller and the drive heads have less distance to cover, so it's not so much of an issue. For what it's worth, my old Sony TR2A had faster access times on its 40GB 1.8" drive than my current Gateway 7510GX has on its 100GB 2.5" drive, and both have the same spindle speed.

    The difference in performance between a 4200rpm and 5400rpm drive is usually about 33% in favor of the 5400. A lot of users have reported substantially smoother computing experiences after making this upgrade, so if you can go with a 5400rpm if you're custom ordering your machine, do so.

    I'd go over things like shock ratings, access times, etc. for notebook drives, but by and large this is esoterica that the average consumer doesn't really need to know.

    As of the time of this writing, the largest notebook drive capacity is 120GB.

    So, you're going to upgrade the drive in your notebook: which brand do you buy?

    Here are the major hard drive brands:

    • TOSHIBA - Toshibas tend to be on the slower side and are one of the two brands that frequently get packaged in less expensive notebooks. Toshiba, however, was first on the market with a 120GB notebook hard disk, currently the largest capacity available.
    • FUJITSU - Fujitsus are the other brand, and these also tend to be slower than other drives at the same speed.
    • SEAGATE - I like the brand personally. They're about middle of the road in terms of performance, but virtually unmatched in reliability. Their drives tend to run cool and last a while, and they sport a very impressive five year warranty. They're also easy to find in retail, and they're the only other manufacturer offering 120GB drives. The trade-off is that as far as notebook hard drives go, these are the most expensive by far. And remember, these aren't the fastest in their class.
    • HITACHI - These are. Hitachi is generally considered the overall best brand of notebook hard disk. Their 5400rpm drives offer performance that approaches 7200rpm levels, and they're reasonably priced. Where they fall short, however, is in heat output, as they do tend to run a bit hotter than the Seagates.
    • WESTERN DIGITAL - Western Digital tends to be sort of an unknown as far as notebook drives go. If their desktop drives are any indication, I'd steer clear. Their desktop drives tend to run very middle of the road, excepting their stellar Raptor series drives. Western Digital hasn't really penetrated the notebook sector very effectively and for now, I'd just as soon avoid them.

    External Drives

    If you're going to go external, you have two options: build your own drive, which can be cheaper (and oftentimes smaller), or buy a ready made external drive.

    External drives have two ways of connecting to your notebook: USB 2.0 or FireWire (IEEE1394). Some drives offer just USB 2.0, some offer FireWire, and some offer both, and what you want is dependent on how you're going to use the drive.

    I'll tell you right now that in my experience - and this has been done using a couple of different drives - FireWire is roughly three times faster than USB 2.0, and uses roughly a third of the CPU power the USB 2.0 drive requires.

    If you don't have a FireWire port on your notebook, you'll be using USB 2.0. If you want to be sure the drive can connect to other computers, you'll want a drive that's USB 2.0 capable.

    I want to note that an external drive connected through FireWire has more consistent and often faster throughput than an internal hard disk. A good FireWire drive can be as fast as or faster than an internal 5400rpm disk. So for the multimedia buffs out there, FireWire makes digital video on a notebook possible.

    So, what if you want to assemble your own? Well, you can purchase an enclosure for 3.5" drives, but you can also get one for 2.5" drives. So if you've replaced the drive in your notebook, you can always buy an enclosure for that old one and use it as an external for added storage space.

    3.5" externals always require an external power supply, but the 2.5" ones can often be powered off of two USB ports, so that's food for thought if you even want your external drive mobile. But again, that's a 2.5" drive, so you're sacrificing speed and capacity.

    Assembling an external drive is usually fairly simple and most enclosures come with good instructions. There are legions of enclosures out there from all different kinds of manufacturers, and I found the best way to shop for them is to get them online where they're much cheaper, and get them from a reputable site like NewEgg.com which features user reviews. Professional reviews for enclosures can be hard to find, but user reviews make it a lot easier to buy an off brand and give you a good idea of what you're getting into.

    If you can afford it, buy one with a fan. If you can't, at least make sure the drive reviews well in terms of heat dissipation, as that can be a killer.

    Enclosures use IDE (Ultra ATA) drives. You'll want a 7200rpm 3.5" desktop drive, which is easy enough to get, and then capacity is entirely up to you. Assemble, plug it in, and if you're running Windows XP you'll be good to go, and Windows will recognize it as a regular hard disk.

    As of the time of this article, the largest desktop hard drive capacity is 500GB.

    Now, what brand of hard drive do you get for your external? There are four major brands of desktop hard drives:

    • SEAGATE - As of the time of this writing, Seagates are the most reliable drives you can buy for a desktop machine, and again feature an impressive five year warranty period. They also tend to be fairly affordable. I've had nothing but good experiences with Seagates, and strongly recommend them.
    • MAXTOR - In stark contrast, Maxtors are by and large the worst brand of desktop hard drive. These are unreliable, and I've seen a LOT of them fail. Unsurprisingly, they also tend to be the least expensive ones on the shelf, and have the shortest warranty period at one year.
    • WESTERN DIGITAL - Western Digitals are great in the high end (again, their Raptor line), but otherwise their quality is right between Maxtor and Seagate and unfortunately, also only offer a one year warranty.
    • HITACHI - These are the fastest 7200rpm drives you can buy, and I've heard they're a great value. Unfortunately, their reliability is also questionable, and old ones had a very high failure rate. They do, however, feature a three year warranty, and are becoming more and more popular these days.

    One final bit I want to touch on here are the existence of high capacity external flash hard drives; these usually max out at 4GB and can power off of the USB 2.0 port. I guess they seem to be popular, but I can't figure out why you'd use one, though maybe you can. They also tend to be very expensive for the capacity.

    A Bit About Recovery Partitions

    These days, most notebook manufacturers ship their recovery media on the hard drive itself. Capacity is enough of a commodity on these drives on its own, but this gets really frustrating. My best advice would be to run the software that lets you make your own recovery media. Many manufacturers do include a utility that lets you "reclaim" the space used by that recovery partition for your own usable space. If nothing else, running the recovery media may allow you to reformat the drive while not restoring the original partition.

    Conclusion

    It's surprising how complex and convoluted this can get, so I want to stress a couple of simpler points.

    For your notebook's internal hard disk, you want a 5400rpm drive, and if you're buying it as a new upgrade for your notebook, you want either a Hitachi or a Seagate. Hitachis do seem to be favored in these forums, though.

    For an external hard drive, if you're going to buy a ready-made external, Seagate and Western Digital are excellent choices. If you're going to build your own external using an enclosure and desktop drive, you want a Seagate hard drive and an enclosure well-reviewed on a popular site by the consumers that actually bought it.

    If you want a more portable external hard disk, you'll want either a Seagate or a Hitachi 2.5" notebook drive, and a suitably small and, again, well-reviewed enclosure.

    I know this is a lot of information to take in, but I do hope it proves useful to you. The difference between two drives can mean a world of difference for the pure performance of your computer. If you need the extra storage space, it's nice to know, too, that a drive connected to your computer through FireWire can offer performance that's very close to a desktop. When you see that, it's not hard to understand why notebooks are supplanting desktops in retail.

     
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  2. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Nice job, good to see this!

    Just want to make a note about Serial ATA - you didn't mention that it doesn't need as high of CPU utilization to access the drive - you can see it in my HDTune benchmarks for my SATA drive in my review. They also use a bit less power than ATA100.

    You sure about the warranty on the WD? I've got a 3-year on my WD. Also, I wouldn't steer clear of them; they are the best drives I've ever had. I have a Caviar SE in my desktop and a Scorpio in an external, never had a better drive. And I've had Hitachis, Toshibas, Samsungs, Maxtors...so I'm not basing it off of nothing. You should change that.

    Other than that, I like it! Your guides are very helpful! :D

    Chaz
     
  3. Dustin Sklavos

    Dustin Sklavos Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    I also base my assessment of Western Digitals on personal experience, and the time I used to spend working for Geek Squad. I'm not a fan of the brand. I also checked online for their warranty period, and on the ones I saw being sold, it's a year.

    I stand by my recommendation.
     
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    delvxe Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you for the elegant and thoughtful guide. Well done.
     
  5. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Ah ok. Just thought I would post my thoughts. People have different experiences, so it's good that we post opinions.

    Thanks for the guide, I'm going to print that out.

    Chaz
     
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    Loaf Notebook Evangelist

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    i <3 hitachi. quite possibly the best bang for the buck hard drive maker out there (especially for desktops), at least that's my opinion.
     
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    I'm with Chaz on the WD HDD's. Prices were always good and the ones I bought had 3yr warranties, too. They have always been good to me, while I have seen a number of Seagates die prematurely. I only had one maxtor- an old fireball se that wouldn't die even when I wanted it to after 5 years. Times change though, and I have noticed that folks are pretty opinionated about what brands of computer hardware they like.

    I suggest a trip over to www.storagereview.com for you real geeks :) That's where I go when I want to decide which HDD to buy. They are now doing notebook drives, too.
     
  8. Rahul

    Rahul Notebook Prophet

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    If 4200 rpm hard drives are so darn slow, then why do so many notebooks have them??
     
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    because american consumers are fools and will take what's given to them.
    If you ever went from a 4200 to 7200 laptop drive you will understand better.
     
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    actually that's exactly what i did with my Toshiba Satellite 2010. I replace the Hitachi 4200 with a Samsung 5400/8Mb buffer. I kept the same capacity, 40Gb, as i never fill it up anyway. The difference was immediately noticable. Then i purchase a $20 Nexstar 2.5 in. USB2 external enclosure for the old Hitachi. Works really well.

    The author didn't mention the Samsung drives but they seems fine with amasing price.

    As for the Maxtor brand, i've used them for years and never had any troubles with any. I still have some oldies on shelves dusting off. All brands are subject to defects like any other electronic equipments. Maxtor has been in business for a very long time. They would not if they were so terrible.
     
  11. Dustin Sklavos

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    You've been fortunate. I've had Maxtor after Maxtor die on me. When I was working in Geek Squad, the brand was a running gag. And if all a business had to do was make a lousy product to fall out of the market, we wouldn't have much of a film industry. ;)

    Maxtor is surviving entirely on price; their prices are frequently lower than competing brands. But their warranties are short for a reason.

    A user in a prior post suggested www.storagereview.com and I highly recommend that site.

    For what it's worth, it seems like everyone has a brand they just plain prefer. For me, it's Seagate, but I have a buddy who swears by Maxtor. I do think that at a certain point of time, Maxtor was a high-quality brand, but they haven't really been for a couple years.

    I really, really take issue with this. 4200rpm drives are the least expensive out of the lot; of course manufacturers are going to default to these. They're inexpensive and in good supply. They're cheaper than 5400 or 7200rpm drives and let's be honest here, Joe Average Consumer (or Jean-Francois Average Consumer, if you want to be international) doesn't need a blistering fast hard drive. He just wants a computer that works.
     
  12. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Right. You know, I used a 40GB 4200RPM hard drive with a 2MB cache for about 6 months in my HP zv5000 before I finally went to 5400RPM/8MB. I have to say, the 4.2k was slow, but having no prior experience with faster drives, I thought it was just fine. It worked very well, and it got the job done.

    Chaz
     
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    WD: agree, definitely steer clear. had too many of these die to count, plus they all sounded like a jet taking off

    IBM: as of a couple years ago the hd's in thinkpads were noisy as hell, plus the infamous deskstar-of-death ,. this is Fujitsu or Hitach now, is it?

    Maxtor: luckily, only had one of these die, but it was because i stopped buying them after that. it was 213mb, so whoever said they used to be a good brand, thats doubtful, theyre always going after the person who wants to get 300gb for 50 cents and just swap it out in a few months when it fails.

    Seagate: ive never had any of my Quantums die, and i think Seagate bought Quantum. plus they were quiet (as Seagates still are) but lately, ive been buying

    Samsung: which this article didnt mention! have a 160/7200 in my desktop in the past year grinding away on compiles torrents and other crap nonstop with no noise or problems, and good performance so the choice for my notebook was a no-brainer..well that and nobody has segates in stock..
     
  14. AuroraS

    AuroraS Notebook Virtuoso

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    I agree... both of my notebooks have used Samsung hard drives... good, quiet, reliable, and cheap drives in my opinion!
     
  15. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I've got one in my laptop - it's pretty quiet, runs relatively cool. Pretty quick as wel. I like it!

    Chaz
     
  16. noahsark

    noahsark Notebook Evangelist

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    Yep, as I mentioned and Pulp confirms, everyone has their favorite hardware vendors based on their own personal experiences. It's good to hear lots of opinions/points of view. Talk to enough people and eventually you'll be able to see the truth of the matter.
     
  17. Charles P. Jefferies

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    My $.02:

    Western Digital: Best drives on the market, never had a better one. Got one in my desktop and laptop. Silent and click-free, and run cool. Reliable. 3-yr warranty. :D

    Hitachi:
    Not as good as WD, run a bit hotter, noisier, clicking noises. Still a good drive.

    Samsung: The drive in my notebook is the first one I've had, so it's hard to judge. I like the drive - fairly quiet, runs a little warm, evident clicking noises. On the whole, a decent drive. Samsung is improving.

    Maxtor: Solid drive, reliable. I would take either these or a WD. One of the best and most solid drives in my opinion.

    Seagate: Great warranty, run cool, very little noise...although not as good as a WD/Maxtor. I would def. consider one though!
     
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    Great informative Hard Drive Guide. Well done, that is quite helpful. Exactly how much more heat will a 7200rpm HDD create vs a 5400rpm HDD ? And will this heat cause the fan on the notebook to run more often and harder thus creating even more noise?
     
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    ....perhaps it depends on the make of the hard drive....
     
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    What is the largest 1.8" hard drive out right now? 60 gigs I assume? Will manufacturers be working on and making faster 1.8" drives? Of course, they will be expensive.
     
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    The biggest 1.8" HDD is now 80GB/4200. Dell offers it on its Latitude X1 ultra-portable.
     
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    I don't have much experience with external HD's but I have a quesion. I have an old 20GB 7200 RPM 3.5" HD. I have firewire on my notebook. You said that usually the Firewire external HD's run faster and smoother then internal ones. So would it be worthwhile to load my games on the 7200 RPM HD and play games through firewire onto my laptop? It sure doesn't seem like it would be even close to as fast as the internal HDl! Let me know what you guys think....
     
  24. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    bump... anyone going to answer this?
     
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    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    Bump Bump Bump!!
     
  26. Charles P. Jefferies

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    If the hard drive is big enough on your laptop, I'd just install it on there . . more convienent.
     
  27. Jason

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    It is big enough, but would it run faster on the 7200 RPM via firwire? Well... faster loading times anyway...?
     
  28. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I'd think you would have faster loading times. However, the only issue I'm wondering about is the size of the drive platter - with only 20GB on it, the seek times might suffer.

    It couldn't hurt to try installing it.
     
  29. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    I'll try it as soon as I get my lappy. A friend Is bringing it to me from the US. I'll let you know if its faster. ;)
     
  30. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    This may not be all that relevant . .

    But has anyone noticed that the hard drive prices have gone up for 2.5"? Or is it just me . . the 60GB are over $80.
     
  31. delpieropadova

    delpieropadova Notebook Enthusiast

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    7200 vs 5400. I compared a Hitachi 80 Gb 7200 vs a Seagate 80 Gb 5400 in the same notebook (the 5400 rpm is now serving as my monthly-cloned drive). Temp increase and power draw differences between those two are highly exaggerated, if there is a difference my lap and the builtin temp monitor didn't notice.
     
  32. cheziyi

    cheziyi Notebook Consultant

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    SATA is faster as it reduces the ammount of time needed for error checking.
     
  33. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    I get avg 32 MB/s from my IDE internal 5400 60 GB Toshiba. I get avg 27 MB/s from my Sharkoon external enclosure with 80 GB Seagate 5400. More than good for gaming. What speeds do 7200 rpms get? HD tach?

    Cheers,

    Ivan
     
  34. L'Erudit

    L'Erudit Newbie

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    For a couple interesting benchmarks between 2.5" HD (notably Seagate & Hitachi), see here and here.
     
  35. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    I don't agree with the Western Digital brand bashing... I personally have 2x160GB's in my desktop and a 80GB external notebook drive. I have had one Hitachi go out on me. (Like 5 years later though..) But, in my opinion, WD, Hitachi, Seagate, and Fujitsu are all great. I have heard many bad things about Toshiba drives. Maxtor, also has some stories, and I don't think Samsung is that great either. But I have never owned one of these drives.
     
  36. xinxg

    xinxg Newbie

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    I have a Toshiba A15-S127 NoteBook (3 years old), My hard drive had repeat Clink sound recently, I think it will dead soon.
    Hard drive is Toshiba HDD2181,with ATA-5 interface, if I want to buy a new notebook hard drive, do I need to buy it Toshiba brand only or I can buy any brand notebook with the same ATA-5 interface? is it possible for me to buy a external hard drive and link it through USB port?

    any suggestion?
     
  37. FrostFire

    FrostFire Notebook Evangelist

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    uh hu.. I just going with a 160GB 5400RPM 2.5" Hitachi Travelstar hard drive my my MS-1039
     
  38. blue68f100

    blue68f100 Notebook Virtuoso

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    You are spinning your wheels with the slow drives. Data shows 7200 rpm are faster and actually are easier on the battery because it will not be reading and writing contionusly. my LT droped 5 c with a 7200 rpm drive, orig was 4200. The other plus is you are not waiting all the time for pages to load. You actually get a 80% gain in productivity for a 10% ( 1.0 vs 1.1amp) loss in drive consumptions.
     
  39. thetick97

    thetick97 Notebook Consultant

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    You can buy any 2.5" hard drive with the same ATA interface. They are backwards compatible. I replaced a 6 yr. old Dell with a new 80GB Western Digital. imho, they are the most quiet and lowest running temp HD available.
    You can also pick up an OEM HD and put in a USB enclosure.
     
  40. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    Data? What data?
    Anyway, yes, they're faster, but no, they're not easier on the battery. (They consume more battery in idle as well as under load). The difference in battery life isn't usually very big though.

    Did you measure the HD's temperature? No, I thought not. :)

    Um, true.... If you've downloaded the internet to your HD. For the rest of us, the HD isn't involved.

    80%? Care to post some documentation for that one?

    A 7200 RPM disk is *much* faster, *when the HD is actually in use*.
    In most scenarios, the HD isn't used much at all.
     
  41. Pirate

    Pirate Notebook Enthusiast

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    the reason for this is because the faster the drive, the more power it needs. when dealing with laptops, u need any power saving features u can get. Great fo those ultra-portables. ;)

    also due to their slow RPMs, the produce less heat! this is another plus since the hotter the drive gets the shorter if overall lifespan! :(
     
  42. cosmic ac

    cosmic ac Notebook Consultant

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    What about solid state hard drives?
     
  43. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    No idea what is good for notebooks, since they have to take all that constant punishment, jerks, vibrations while in operation. But as far as desktops go, I find seagate the best, and samsung the worst.. My friends have had countless problems with samsungs, until I've convinced them to switch to seagate.
    No seagate hdd has ever crashed on me, and i've a 6 year old seagate 40 gb, 5400 rpm, that shows no signs of giving up yet. And my comp's on almost 24x7x365.. Nothing more reliable than a seagate...
     
  44. tom1st

    tom1st Notebook Enthusiast

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    Maybe Not the right forum but, I have upgrade from 30gb 4200 to hit 60gb 5400 and it runs smoother . how do I wipe the old drive clean?? I used a case usb transfer kit to upgrade
     
  45. illmatic2609

    illmatic2609 Notebook Deity

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    Do you think any of you can assist me with my problem? I am looking for a new hard drive for my Sony Vaio FE laptop.

    All I know as far as the specs I know are SATA and 5400RPM. I don't know which brand is currently in my laptop...I have to look at it as soon as I can.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=132116
     
  46. lcadd

    lcadd Newbie

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    I'm trying to upgrade my tiny Fujitsu Lifebook P7000 series hard drive and can't find anything. It came with a 30 gb, but says you can upgrade to 60 gb. Why can't I find this on the internet? It must be a 1.8" hard drive, 60 gb, UDMA 100, with a PATA connection. I don't know what most of this means, but it's the connection that seems to be the problem. Can't be a ZIF connection. HELP! I use this as my travel computer and I leave the US again for a year in 2 weeks.
     
  47. LyubinVadim

    LyubinVadim Newbie

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    Did you check it out at www.newegg.com? If so it looks strange. :confused: And it seems to me that I saw something similar to what you want at www.costupdate.com. I'm not sure it completely suits your notebook and it's 120Gb, not 60 but it's better than nothing :) ... Have a good trip. ;)
     
  48. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    braingeyser Newbie

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    This guide is from 2005, but a lot of the things it mentions seem to match what I see today (except for new laptops, which all seem to have SATA HDDs, so the SATA-vs.-IDE info doesn't apply). Have there been any changes in the interim that new laptop buyers like me should know?
     
  50. 2hemlocktards

    2hemlocktards Newbie

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    I have a IBM T60 with a forgotten "power on password" icon displayed. I was instructed by Lenovo to change hard drive,which I did with NO luck.PC stills shows the same icon.I was then told to change motherboard at the cost of $475.
    I also need to replace my cmos battery with plastic casing/wiring assembly all in one. Any help in locating this item for me to purchase.
    Any help in resolving these issues is greatly appreciated.

    Regards,
    2hemlocktards
     
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