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    Notebook heat

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by lvnatic, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. lvnatic

    lvnatic Notebook Evangelist

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    I own a HP Pavilion dv5-1181en Entertainment Notebook PC and im pretty satisfied with it, works pretty well, but if i play a game with high graphic requirments, the coolers inside start to work much faster, and the laptop heats in aprox 10 minutes. The used power plan is HP Recommended, and sometimes High Performance (wich causes it to heat even much faster), but if im wathing a movie or just surfing the net i go in Power Saver (and it works very good, doesnt heat almost at all). What i want to ask is if this heat can damage the notebook overtime, cause sometimes i play games like batman arkham asylum for over 2 hours, and the notebook becomes like a grill. If this can rly cause some dmg, i might think to buy some extra coolers support for it.
     
    lvnatic, Sep 17, 2009
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  2. sgilmore62

    sgilmore62 uber doomer

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    yes, heat is probably the single most common cause of electronic hardware failures and the price that is paid for having a thin laptop. Definitely recommend getting a good notebook cooler and maybe removing ram door, etc. if you are not going to move it for better airflow.
     
    sgilmore62, Sep 17, 2009
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  3. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    lvnatic, download HWMonitor and post your CPU, GPU and HDD temps.

    My computer is cool on the outside, an oven on the inside, but it's temps are within limits.
     
    namaiki, Sep 17, 2009
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  4. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    I have a similar laptop and getting a notebook cooler helps a lot in dropping temperatures... and Speedfan is a better program than HWmonitor to montior internal temps...
     
    sean473, Sep 17, 2009
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  5. lvnatic

    lvnatic Notebook Evangelist

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    CPUID Hardware Monitor 1.1.4.0
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    Mainboard Vendor Quanta
    Mainboard Model 3603 (0xCC - 0x21D8)


    Hardware monitor
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    ACPI hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 43°C (109°F) [0xC5A] (TZ01)

    Dump hardware monitor



    Hardware monitor
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    Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P8600 hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 35°C (94°F) [0x41] (Core #0)
    Temperature sensor 1 36°C (96°F) [0x40] (Core #1)

    Dump hardware monitor



    Hardware monitor
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    GeForce 9600M GT hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 48°C (118°F) [0x30] (GPU Core)

    Dump hardware monitor



    Hardware monitor
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    WDC WD32 00BEVT-60ZCT hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 40°C (103°F) [0x28] (HDD)

    Dump hardware monitor


    Processors Map
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    Number of processors 1
    Number of threads 2

    Processor 0
    -- Core 0
    -- Thread 0
    -- Core 1
    -- Thread 0


    this are in normal conditions, with no games opened
     
    lvnatic, Sep 17, 2009
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  6. rock3ralex

    rock3ralex Notebook Enthusiast

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    replace the stock thermal paste with AC MX-2 and use the undervolting guide. I've got my t9400 down from 1.175vcore and 83/84c on load to 0.98vcore and 68/69 on full load. I haven't even used AC MX-2 yet ;)
     
    rock3ralex, Sep 17, 2009
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  7. lvnatic

    lvnatic Notebook Evangelist

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    well idk if i will use that guide, seems a bit difficult and it can cause some bugs as i read, but i want to ask if those coolers will be enough, a support table with 3 coolers will be enough to keep it at a decent temperature for lets say 4 years at least ?
     
    lvnatic, Sep 17, 2009
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  8. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    Those idle temps seem quite normal. As you've posted, load temps are a different story.
     
    namaiki, Sep 17, 2009
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  9. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

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    There is nothing wrong with your laptop. Those temps are perfectly normal....
     
    iGrim, Sep 17, 2009
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  10. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

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    problem with constantly running 'monitoring' software is that they put an additional load on your system. On big iron, things like OpenView and Tivoli can easily soak up 6-7% of system resources just to tell you what the other 95% of the system is doing. That extra system load is often just enough to prevent the supervisor/hypervisor from dropping the cpu(s) and ram into low power modes.

    PC/laptop monitors do the same thing on a smaller scale.

    The challenge of course is that snapshot point-in-time monitoring of ANYTHING is generally useless. You need to be aware of trends and nominal readings to be able to highlight anomalies.
     
    newsposter, Sep 17, 2009
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  11. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    OP has issues with load temps, not idle temps.

    lvnatic, open up that game and play for a while and then post up your temps.
     
    namaiki, Sep 17, 2009
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  12. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

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    again, there is nothing wrong with the temps. Perfectly normal...
     
    iGrim, Sep 18, 2009
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  13. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Those temps are fine for idle. Try playing Arkham Asylum for an hour and post back the maximum temps

    Heat wont damage it as long as your CPU and GPU stay below 80c
     
    flipfire, Sep 18, 2009
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  14. Vinyard

    Vinyard Notebook Evangelist

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    My notebook was very warm on the outside but after I purchased a notebook cooler, just a few days ago, I could already feel the difference. My laptop was on for about four hours and it was just a little bit warm. So you should definitely buy a cooler.
     
    Vinyard, Sep 18, 2009
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  15. lvnatic

    lvnatic Notebook Evangelist

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    heres a litle update with the temperature in overloaded mode (turned on since 2 hours, playing assasins creed all way long, high performance plan)

    CPUID Hardware Monitor 1.1.4.0
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    Mainboard Vendor Quanta
    Mainboard Model 3603 (0xCC - 0x21D8)


    Hardware monitor
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    ACPI hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 68°C (154°F) [0xD54] (TZ01)

    Dump hardware monitor



    Hardware monitor
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    Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P8600 hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 65°C (148°F) [0x23] (Core #0)
    Temperature sensor 1 59°C (138°F) [0x29] (Core #1)

    Dump hardware monitor



    Hardware monitor
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    GeForce 9600M GT hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 68°C (154°F) [0x44] (GPU Core)

    Dump hardware monitor



    Hardware monitor
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    WDC WD32 00BEVT-60ZCT hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 35°C (94°F) [0x23] (HDD)

    Dump hardware monitor


    Processors Map
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    Number of processors 1
    Number of threads 2

    Processor 0
    -- Core 0
    -- Thread 0
    -- Core 1
    -- Thread 0


    Processors Information
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    Processor 1 (ID = 0)
    Number of cores 2 (max 2)
    Number of threads 2 (max 2)
    Name Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P8600
    Codename Penryn
    Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz
    Package Socket P (478) (platform ID = 7h)
    CPUID 6.7.6
    Extended CPUID 6.17
    Core Stepping M0
    Technology 45 nm
    Core Speed 2393.2 MHz (9.0 x 265.9 MHz)
    Rated Bus speed 1063.6 MHz
    Stock frequency 2400 MHz
    Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
    L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L2 cache 3072 KBytes, 12-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    FID/VID Control yes
    FID range 6.0x - 9.0x
    max VID 1.088 V
    Features XD, VT
    is it to heat? could it damage my notebook ?
     
    lvnatic, Sep 18, 2009
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  16. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    CPU, GPU is fine, HDD is great.
    All very decent load temps. Something to be worried about would be temps in 80s or higher for CPU/GPU or higher than 55C for HDD.
     
    namaiki, Sep 18, 2009
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  17. lvnatic

    lvnatic Notebook Evangelist

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    well, thats with a cooler support table :)
    i dont even want to test the temperature without it :p
    so thanx for the answers
     
    lvnatic, Sep 18, 2009
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  18. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Go ahead a try. The computer won't kill itself if you do so.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Sep 18, 2009
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