Nvidia Thread

Pulling the Plug on GPP, Leaning into GeForce
May 4, 2018 by JOHN TEEPLE
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2018/05/04/gpp/

"A lot has been said recently about our GeForce Partner Program. The rumors, conjecture and mistruths go far beyond its intent. Rather than battling misinformation, we have decided to cancel the program.

GPP had a simple goal – ensuring that gamers know what they are buying and can make a clear choice.

NVIDIA creates cutting-edge technologies for gamers. We have dedicated our lives to it. We do our work at a crazy intense level – investing billions to invent the future and ensure that amazing NVIDIA tech keeps coming. We do this work because we know gamers love it and appreciate it. Gamers want the best GPU tech. GPP was about making sure gamers who want NVIDIA tech get NVIDIA tech.

With GPP, we asked our partners to brand their products in a way that would be crystal clear. The choice of GPU greatly defines a gaming platform. So, the GPU brand should be clearly transparent – no substitute GPUs hidden behind a pile of techno-jargon.

Most partners agreed. They own their brands and GPP didn’t change that. They decide how they want to convey their product promise to gamers. Still, today we are pulling the plug on GPP to avoid any distraction from the super exciting work we’re doing to bring amazing advances to PC gaming.

This is a great time to be a GeForce partner and be part of the fastest growing gaming platform in the world. The GeForce gaming platform is rich with the most advanced technology. And with GeForce Experience, it is “the way it’s meant to be played.”"

Nvidia GPP IS OFFICIALLY OVER!
UFD Tech
Published on May 4, 2018


NVIDIA "Pulling the plug" on GPP
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/8h0vgd/nvidia_pulling_the_plug_on_gpp/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/8h0x1k/nvidia_ending_geforce_partner_program_gpp/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/8h10te/nvidia_is_pulling_the_plug_on_the_geforce_partner/

Lots of other responses from youtube and website's on this new Nvidia move, all about the same, please post anything you find interesting.

 

About time, This GPP program should never come up into the light. But Nvidia have reached their goal. And this without being fined for this trash.

"With GPP, we asked our partners to brand their products in a way that would be crystal clear. The choice of GPU greatly defines a gaming platform. So, the GPU brand should be clearly transparent – no substitute GPUs hidden behind a pile of techno-jargon.

Most partners agreed. They own their brands and GPP didn’t change that. They decide how they want to convey their product promise to gamers. Still, today we are pulling the plug on GPP to avoid any distraction from the super exciting work we’re doing to bring amazing advances to PC gaming.

This is a great time to be a GeForce partner and be part of the fastest growing gaming platform in the world. The GeForce gaming platform is rich with the most advanced technology. And with GeForce Experience, it is “the way it’s meant to be played.”

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And not all is as it should from AMD either...
AMD Invoking Sales Ban for ASRock Phantom Gaming Graphics cards in Europe
"The problem for me is that AMD has not agreed us to sell in EU, that is really a pity."

So like, we just had the NVIDIA GPP program end yesterday right?, let that sink in for a minute okay, AMD is invoking a regional sales ban for certain brands in favor for others?

 

NVIDIA Plays the Victim & GPP Info Dump
Gamers Nexus
Published on May 5, 2018
Our info dump on everything we collected on GPP up until now, nVidia's now-defunct "GeForce Partner Program."

We talk about issues we have with nVidia's GeForce Partner Program retirement letter, which frames the situation as if nVidia is the victim and that consumers and media are "why we can't have nice things." This discussion also goes into some concerns we have with the over-arching PC hardware industry, which has become increasingly "influencer" focused, thus reducing capacity of manufacturers to withstand criticism. Any criticism is now perceived as a slight, even with a long-standing history of professional product reviews.

Finally, we add some of our source information on what was happening with GPP.

NVIDIA article: https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2018/05...

 

NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 1180 Based On 12nm FinFET Surfaces In TechPowerUp GPU Database

Looks like its leak galore today as the upcoming NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1180 next-generation graphics card was added to the venerable TechPowerUp GPU database. The data entered is very clearly of an engineering sample and we could see things such as the clock speeds improve further down the line but it does mean that the GPU is now entering the final stages before launch. The closest big event is Computex 2018 and all the rumors point to a launch around that time.

 

Nvidia continue milk on Pascal... @Phoenix
NVIDIA Could Be Prepping A GeForce GTX 1050 3GB For Entry-Level Gaming

Most of the rumors surrounding NVIDIA's future graphics card plans are related to whatever it has in store as a successor to Pascal, whether that means porting Volta over to the gaming sector or rolling with Turing or Ampere. However, NVIDIA might not be finished with Pascal. The latest GPU rumor about team green is that NVIDIA is prepping a 3GB version of its entry-level GeForce GTX 1050 card for cost conscious gamers.

 

The point about reduced capacity to withstand criticism does not apply to Nvidia, they never had any to begin with. They have always been extremely egotistical that way.

If the above GV104 information is true, that chip will be bandwidth starved unless Nvidia has come up with even more trickery to reduce bandwidth requirements.

 

What "trickery" are you referring to?

 

For Pascal it was inprovements to the DCC featured in Maxwell.

 

It's the same "trickery" AMD does as well, and you're forgetting about new memory tech like GDDR5X and for Volta HBM2/GDDR6.

 

More milking...
NVIDIA Reportedly Planning To Equip 6 GB GeForce GTX 1060 Cards With GP104 GPUs – Same Specifications But A Different GPU
So now the question, why is NVIDIA bringing this variant so late to the market. First of all, the card wouldn’t affect any 6 GB GTX 1060 owners at all. It’s literally the same thing and no one would even notice the change. However, it shows that NVIDIA is clearing stock of their Pascal GPUs to ready for the next generation.

 

I’m aware. It wasn’t a slight against Nvidia, no need to get defensive.

Yes, I’m also aware Pascal had GDDR5X, which allowed 320GB/s. According to those leaked specs, GDDR6 will allow for 384GB/s on a 256-bit bus. My concern is that with the big increase in shaders (2560->3584, and increase of 40%), a 20% increase in memory bandwidth will mean GV104 is even more memory starved than GP104 already is.

Which is why I said they’d have to come up with other ways of reducing bandwidth requirements. From my understanding DCC has already been pushed quite far and I’m unsure of how much more they can milk out of it.

Or they could just give us HBM, but that would eat into their ridiculous margains.

 

NVIDIA GTX 1170 Specs, Price, Performance & Release Date – Preliminary
I’d be remiss if I did not mention that this information is preliminary and subject to change as more information is revealed and/or existing information is confirmed or debunked. This page will be kept up to date with the latest information available at any given time.

Price & Release Date
Pricing and the release date are the most fluid parts of a product launch, so this could definitely change. But, you can expect the GeForce GTX 1170 to be released in the summer. All leaks and rumors point to a debut around the GTX 1180 at around July, so you can expect the GTX 1170 to be available on shelves at the same time or a couple of weeks later in August.

In terms of pricing, whispers say that NVIDIA is looking to charge more for the GTX 1170 as compared to the GTX 1070, with some sources quoted as saying to expect a price tag of around $499.

 

NVIDIA CEO comments on GeForce Partner Program
By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: Guru3d.com 05/15/2018

Nvidia recently held a conference call on their latest financial results, one person in the call was Jen-Hsung Huang, and he is the CEO of Nvidia. He was asked about the cancellation of the Geforce Partner Program in relation to how Nvidia came to that decision and what the possible implications are on market share.

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Nvidia's stock plummets as GPU crypto mining death fears intensify
Even though Nvidia had record-breaking Q1 earnings, the impending doom looming over the GPU-based crypto mining endeavors is causing fear, uncertainty and doubt in the green company's investors, leading recently to a 7.85% stock fall. Bitmain's Ethereum ASICs will be launched soon and Nvidia could see more than 66% decreased earnings from crypto-mining-related sales in Q2.

Maybe it's time to STOP the milking on Pascal and release next model?

 

Research at NVIDIA: Researchers Help Robots Work Alongside Humans

 

Nvidia is training robots to learn from watching humans
KHARI JOHNSON@KHARIJOHNSON MAY 20, 2018 4:00 PM
https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/20/nvidia-is-training-robots-to-learn-from-watching-humans/

 

GTX 11 Series Nvidia Volta Gaming GPUs Not Coming Out Any Time Soon? Here Are All The Reasons Why
By Talha Amjad, May 22, 2018
https://segmentnext.com/2018/05/22/gtx-11-series-nvidia-volta/

"Nvidia GTX 11 series of graphics cards are something that we all have been waiting for but we have heard little to nothing about the upcoming gaming graphics cards that are based on the Nvidia Volta architecture and there might be a good reason behind that. It is possible that Nvidia is not planning on releasing any new gaming graphics cards based on the next generation architecture any time soon.

Why would the company not release the Nvidia GTX 11 series or Nvidia Volta based gaming graphics cards in the near future you ask? Well, there are a number of reasons why this might be the case. Here we are going to look into different theories as to why this could be the case and some recent events that support these theories.

No Nvidia Volta Gaming GPUS In The Near Future
Nvidia Pascal based GTX 10 series came out 2 years ago and it was very successful to start with due to the increased performance and efficiency as compared to the previous generation. The cost of the performance that Pascal had to offer was also lower as compared to older graphics cards so of course gamers wanted the latest and greatest because it was and is great value for money.

No Competitive Motivation
Nvidia has 70% of the gaming market covered which means that every 3 out of 4 gamers have an Nvidia graphics card. That is a very dominant ratio and Nvidia has always been the dominant force in the gaming GPUs market. While AMD Polaris and Vega based GPUs tried to make an impact and take back that market share, the dent that they made was not too big.

AMD is not introducing any new architecture this year when it comes to their lineup of graphics cards and at most, we are expecting that AMD Vega will be moved to the 7nm process. While this shift will enable better performance and efficiency you won’t be getting a major boost and there will be nothing groundbreaking.

Nvidia is already the market leader so the company has little to no motivation to take on the competition and introduce something new into the market. At the end of the day, Nvidia is a company and it is going to maximize its investments. Pascal is an investment and Nvidia is going to try and dish out as many Pascal based graphics cards as possible and we have seen that with the new GTX 1060as well as the 3 GB variant of the GTX 1050.

Developing an architecture takes some serious research and development not to mention the process that has to be used in order to provide better performance and efficiency with each new graphics architecture. It would not be surprised if Nvidia did not release the Volta based gaming graphics cards this year and dished out a couple of more Pascal based GPUs instead. The company would just be making the most of its investment.

Computex 2018 Launch Seems Unlikely
When the Nvidia Volta based gaming graphics cards were not mentioned at GTC or GDC people anticipated an announcement at Computex 2018 but that seems unlikely keeping in mind that Nvidia likes to create a lot of buzz around the launch beforehand and the company also likes to make such announcements at special events that are dedicated to the launch of such products. Remember the launch of Pascal?

Furthermore, At the JP Morgan Technology, Media and Communications Conference, Ms. Colette Kress, Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President at Nvidia mentioned that there would be a special surprise at Computex 2018 but she also added that Pascal is the best right now which could mean that Nvidia is going to stick to Pascal this year and release Nvidia Volta based graphics cards later on.

If I was to take a guess the surprise could be a replacement for the Titan V which is also based on the Volta architecture but is not a gaming graphics card. With the event being just around the corner we will have to wait and see what happens. This is not a confirmation from Nvidia so do take this with a grain of salt.

VRAM Shortage
VRAM shorage has been an issue and it seems that this was due to collusion between different VRAM manufacturers. Whatever the case may be, the prices of VRAM is pretty high and that could be one of the reasons why Nvidia Volta has not come out yet and why the company has not mentioned anything about the release of the gaming graphics cards.

There is a case going on as we speak and the claim that VRAM prices have been artificially inflated due to limiting stock is being investigated. This is illegal and VRAM manufacturers will have to pay a hefty fine is this is indeed what is happening behind the scenes.

Sticking To Pascal
As mentioned, Nvidia seems to be sticking to Pascal with the introduction of the latest GTX 1050 3 GB model. The GPU comes with an additional GB of VRAM as compared to the 2 GB model and also features the same number of CUDA cores as the Ti version. Now there are 3 models to choose from. Before this, we saw 2 versions of the GTX 1060. One version was based on the GP104 GPU and we also saw a mining version that came with 5 GB VRAM.

One can argue that If Nvidia was planning to release the Nvidia Volta based gaming GPUs then these cards should not be coming out 2 years later. Another theory is that Nvidia Volta is on course and Nvidia is just shipping out the yield that it has left but I think that is not the case.

We are going to be looking at Nvidia Volta in the coming days so stay tuned to SegmentNext for more information related to Nvidia Volta based gaming graphics cards.

Let us know what you think about Nvidia Volta gaming GPUs and whether or not you think they will be coming out this year."

 

NVIDIA TensorRT at GTC 2018

 

Nvidia Computex Press Conference Live
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Started streaming 2 hours ago
We’re covering NVIDIA’s Computex Press Conference Live from Taipei, Taiwan

 

NVIDIA CEO Claims Next-Gen GeForce Turing GPUs Are Coming 'A Long Time From Now'
The million dollar question on every gamer's mind is when the heck will NVIDIA finally launch its next-generation GPU, presumably called Turing. There have been plenty of rumors and speculation, most of which.....

Give Big thanks to AMD (sarcasm).

 

No New Nvidia Gaming GPUs, GTX 1180 Missing @ Computex 2018
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Jun 4, 2018

 

Techarp has a slightly better video vantage...

2018 NVIDIA Computex Q&A Session with Jensen Huang
Tech ARP
Published on Jun 4, 2018
At an exclusive NVIDIA Computex 2018 press conference, NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang revealed a slew of new computing products. Full details @ https://www.techarp.com/computer/jens...


2018 NVIDIA Computex Press Conference + Q&A Session
Tech ARP
Published on Jun 4, 2018
At an exclusive NVIDIA Computex 2018 press conference, NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang revealed a slew of new computing products. Full details @ https://www.techarp.com/computer/jens...


NVIDIA Jetson Xavier Board + Modules Up Close!
Tech ARP
Published on Jun 4, 2018
The NVIDIA Jetson Xavier is a new deep learning computer designed for intelligent machines, e.g. robots. Full details @ https://www.techarp.com/computer/jens...


NVIDIA Drive Xavier + NVIDIA Drive Pegasus Up Close!
Tech ARP
Published on Jun 4, 2018
Both NVIDIA Drive Xavier and NVIDIA Drive Pegasus use the new NVIDIA Xavier SoC - the world's largest System-On-Chip, with 9 billion transistors! Full details @ https://www.techarp.com/computer/jens...


NVIDIA HGX-2 Board, GPU + Backplane Up Close!
Tech ARP
Published on Jun 4, 2018
The NVIDIA HGX-2 is a new architecture for hyperscale servers, delivering 1 petaflops on a single board, or 2 petaflops with two boards! Full details @ https://www.techarp.com/computer/jens...

 

I think they quickly want to sell their old stock before they announce the new boards. But I am quite sure they will be presented in August according to the rumors and who posted those rumors.

But for laptops it will be in December or early next year I think.

 

AI - Deep Learning - TensorFlow Image Classification
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Published on Jun 4, 2018
Basic implementation of Image Classification with TensorFlow and Decision Tree. All the base we need to train and classify any sort of data.
Video, photo, sound, text, machine learning, robot trajectory, matlab, excel tables, etc. We mostly use this model to classify fruit and vegetable defects for sorting\packing lines and yield localization for growing\care\harvest robots.

 

Back and forth
NVIDIA launching its next-gen GeForce GTX 1180 on July 30-Tweaktown.com
Computex 2018 - I disappointed so many people with my report that NVIDIA would unveil their next-gen GeForce GTX 1180 graphics cards during GTC 2018, and admit failure. I'll give each and every one of you a cuddle when I see you for the disappointment.

But walking across the floor of Nangang and talking to various industry people, NVIDIA will be launching their next-gen GeForce GTX 1180 graphic card on July 30. NVIDIA CEO and founder Jensen Huang said they were a while away during NVIDIA's Computex 2018 press conference, but of course he's going to say that. July 30 isn't too far away, and while we were wrong about the GTC 2018 launch, my sources were very clear about July 30. I asked multiple people and more than one confirmed it was less than two months away, with July 30 specifically being mentioned by multiple of my sources.

 

So, he starts by apologizing for screwing up his last "guess" as to when the next generation Nvidia gaming GPU's are going to be released, then "guesses" again based on other unnamed sources "guesses".

I "guess" that's all a bunch of vaporous BS, that's what I guess...

 

No point in speculating. It will happen when it happens and not a minute sooner. What's not already here right now is not available and, therefore, does not matter. The important things to remember are:

1. NEVER trust NVIDIA (you can interchange their name with Intel, Micro$oft or AMD)
2. NEVER spend your own money first (watch the monkeys spend theirs first and observe)
3. NEVER believe everything you read in a "professional" review, especially if the product is new

 

It's a reason I sit on the fence, bro Fox I try always follow up whats happening in tech world. Never ever buy before you are sure you want it.

 

Powerful Virtualization for Applications, Desktops, and Workstations

 

Wow. So many special new concepts. Here is some breaking news from NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang.



Still waiting on 1180 Ti benchmarks.

 

Thought everyone would appreciate a little humor on hump day (Wednesday).

 

As much as we have many concerns about NVIDIA, but we have to admit that they have many high technologies shaping the future with different ways.

 

Yes, definitely. The gaming GPU part of their business is only a small part of the advanced technological wizardry they are involved with. They drive a lot of incredible technology that we do not even think about, which touches a multitude of areas in both science and medicine. To say they are an amazing company would be an understatement.

 

Yeah, paving the way for more BGAs.
Concept is pretty good for first world with 1GB/s internet and electricity.
I want a datacenter in my house to play GTA 6 just like Phoenix.

 

"I am AI" Docuseries, Episode 7: Taking the Ice with AI - ICEBERG Hockey Analytics

 

Intel OFFICIALLY Releasing Gaming GPUs, Nvidia’s 1180 Probably Coming Soon!

 

2020... that's a long wait to miss a delivery deadline, and cancel another discrete GPU project.

Now It's A Party: Intel Officially Confirms First Dedicated GPU In 2020
Jason Evangelho, JUN 12, 2018 @ 02:34 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...rms-first-dedicated-gpu-by-2020/#751fd3597944

Intel to Release Discrete Graphics Card In 2020, GPUs For Desktop Gaming Coming Too
by Paul Alcorn June 12, 2018 at 1:17 PM
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-discrete-gpu-2020-raja,37289.html

 

Or intel gobbling up Radeon division to compete with NV.

 

Yipe, don't even joke about Intel taking over AMD... Zoiks!!

 

I specifically said Radeon Division not whole AMD division.

 

Yeah, but the AMD Radeon Division is rumored to have the AMD CPU Division working closely with them to share the Infinity Fabric and other AMD CPU division technologies in the design of new AMD Radeon Division GPU's!

No more Intel!, Intel gets Raja Koduri, and that's it!

 

That was a "Piece of Cake".
Take a look at this.
And the temps!!!
Around 90C all time when detecting!
Touching 100C when training a new model!!!
But i get a real-time neural network on a Zephyrus with 25FPS!!!!!!!!
This one was hard: (Don't be scared of the horrors you are about to see...I'm nicer than it looks)

 

This reminds me of a parable. The CEO of Nvidia left AMD to cofound his company with two Sun engineers. In the mid 2000s, AMD approached Nvidia for merger talks. Nvidia's CEO was willing, but wanted to retain overall CEO position. Whomever in charge at AMD at the time really didn't want to lose power. That AMD CEO is only known for taking over a very successful AMD (after running Motorola's chip division into the ground), then acquiring ATi before running AMD and ATi into dire straits while selling the farm to keep what remained afloat. With hindsight. we're very lucky AMD is still around and Nvidia's CEO was right to not want him.

Maybe that Moto/AMD CEO was actually a very talented engineer and CEO, but it doesn't seem like that from 2018.

 

You lost me at "The CEO of Nvidia left AMD..."

 

The reason AMD failed hard vs. Nvidia's Pascal graphics... AMD prioritized the development of Navi for Playstation 5 at the expense of Vega. Regarding Raja Koduri leadership in this mess... He would not stay longer at AMD. Why would he? Or why should he?

 

He used to be an engineer at AMD.

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/bios/jensen-huang

To say he probably still liked AMD back in 2003-04 is within the realm of reason. AMD didn't make anything that competed with Nvidia back then, and Nvidia made chipsets for AMD, too. AMD's failure to swallow Nvidia would eventually cause a rash decision to buy ATi (whom was more aligned with Intel, at the time).

Heck, it recently came out that Nvidia's CEO and AMD's current CEO are related, lol (cousins once-removed, in the correct sense).

https://babeltechreviews.com/nvidias-ceo-is-the-uncle-of-amds-ceo/


EDIT: and some may note, why didn't AMD hostile takeover Nvidia if Nvidia is who they wanted? Nvidia apparently had a pretty decent protection clause (poison pill) from MSFT, stemming from Nvidia's high licensing fee for the OG Xbox.

http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001045810/2de0fe2f-db7c-4242-9fde-c1a4663b15da.pdf
(page 19, the above is Nvidia's annual report legally filed to the SEC for fiscal year ending on Jan 28th, 2018
http://investor.nvidia.com/financial-info/sec-filings/default.aspx )

Amusingly, the next company to approach Nvidia at the last minute for a GPU (Sony) also paid through the nose for last gen tech (PS3). Sony did not get to negotiate a good contract on that one.

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 11/20 Turing GPUs To Support Real-Time Ray Tracing And HDMI 2.1
"In addition, rumor has it NVIDIA's batch of GPUs for consumers will feature a new iteration of its GPU Boost algorithm, or a brand new GPU clock mechanism, to enable clockspeeds that are higher than today's cards. Also look for Turing cards to sport GDDR6 memory chips, also with higher clocks."

@Mr. Fox @Prema I expect you two looking forward to the brand new GPU clock mechanism. Higher boost than ever

NVIDIA’s Next-Gen GeForce Rumored To Feature New GPU Clock Algorithm, HDMI 2.1, RTX Tech and More – Product Breifing Allegedely Given To NVIDIA Board Partners

 

Perhaps more overclocking problems with this new GPU boost feature?! Maybe even less headroom for overclocking. Might not be bad for general consumers, as perhaps they're getting more performance from their silicon, but maybe it won't leave as much headroom for overclocking enthusiasts - a bit like AMD Ryzen CPUs for instance.

 

Yeah, that would suck. Like watching paint dry, LOL.

 

Maybe this brand new GPU clock mechanism works ok on massive water cooled rigs who can keep the graphics within cold temp, but will suck on Notebooks with ****y cooling. More like Intel's new Mobile i9 BGA feature Thermal Velocity Boost (TVB)