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    OCZ Core V2 SSD

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Tony, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. Tony

    Tony Nissan ftw!

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    does anybody know where can i buy the OCZ Core V2 250GB SSD? or is it even available for sale yet?
     
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    Dagra Notebook Enthusiast

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  3. Tony

    Tony Nissan ftw!

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    thanks! i just hope the price will go down soon.
    800$ is a little out of my budget.
     
  4. FrankTabletuser

    FrankTabletuser Notebook Evangelist

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    you know that the Core series is the budget series with MLC instead of SLC and with a bad and slow controller, and that OCZ has many problems with both the V1 and V2, and that they consume a lot of power (not like their SLC SSD) and are almost unuseable as the system disk with the OS running on it, because it has problems with random accesses.
    Do you still want it?
     
  5. bigspin

    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    Can't agree. Read This review conclusion
     
  6. FrankTabletuser

    FrankTabletuser Notebook Evangelist

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    Nice conclusion, but sadly this conclusion has nothing to do with the topic here. Here we talk about the OCZ Core V2 SSD (cheap mainstream MLC SSD) and not about a high end OCZ SATAII SSD (expensive but better and fast SLC Samsung SSD).
    But sadly most people think they are the same, but they are almost as different as apples and oranges.

    So if you really want to read the truth about those pseudo MLC SSDs then just read the OCZ forum: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=88

    And now, after you read a few topics do you really still think that the Core SSD is worth the money?
     
  7. bigspin

    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    Opsss....thanx. BTW i heard V2 is better than V1.
     
  8. Tony

    Tony Nissan ftw!

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    urgh... i guess im just gonna go for a 7200rpm hard drive for right now...
     
  9. bigspin

    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    I still can't agree about OCZ drive problem. search first . This is the best review I read so far about SSD drives
     
  10. Phil

    Phil Retired

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  11. FrankTabletuser

    FrankTabletuser Notebook Evangelist

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    all those benchmaks say nothing about the real life performance, they are meaningless for a SSD, espspecially the MLC SSDs which are not useable as the system disk.

    The speed tests are only based on some strange benchmak tools which do not represent the way the SSD is used when you use it as a system disk. Yes, the benchmarks show nice values, but they are meaningless, because the reality is, that the Core SSD and other MLC SSDs are slow, very slow as a system disk.

    The power consumption test shows the power consumption of the whole system, a high power system. The SSDs consume about 0.3-2 Watt, it's almost impossible to say anything about their power consumption if you measure the power the whole system needs, which is about 200-700 times as big. They have to measure the power the SSDs, and only the SSDs consumes, this would represent the power the SSD consumes.

    So if you still think the MLC SSDs are so great and are affordable SSDs, then please read at least this two posts about the Core V2
    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42725
    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43084


    SLC SSDs are great but expensive
    MLC SSDs are, currently, a waste of money
     
  12. Phil

    Phil Retired

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    It's not so much MLC that is the problem, it's the Jmicron controller that most of them use.

    The MLC drive that does not use the Jmicron controller is the fastest SSD available for notebooks: Intel X25-M.
     
  13. FrankTabletuser

    FrankTabletuser Notebook Evangelist

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    yes, but it seems that this drive is expensive again, and not as cheap as the OCZ or other drives.
     
  14. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Premium performance commands a premium price...
     
  15. D111

    D111 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Most of the problems can be fixed by following these instructions:

    The problems described can be fixed by following these links:

    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43460

    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43525

    A discussion of the technical issues as to why legacy OS like Vista, XP, and Apps like Microsoft Office cause problems with SSDs and what to do about it is here:

    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42487

    It is interesting to note that these issues arise with ANY commonly available SSD, including and up to fairly modern and well designed ones like the Intel X-25.

    See: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44484


    While the problem in theory, do not need to occur in Linux, many distributions are optimized for HDD use, and thus, have the same problems as Vista and XP.

    Basically, what is needed is to eliminate the HDD optimizations (that causes lots of small file writes like superfetch and prefetch), things like background HDD defragmentation (that causes lots of small file write drive activity), and then, to recode the OS to do things that a good SSD optimizer does like Managed File Technology (MFT) from www.easyco.com.

    With these tweaks, I managed to get a super slow SSD on an Asus eee PC to perform well.
     
  16. mullenbooger

    mullenbooger Former New York Giant

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    I'd like to hear if others were able to fix their stuttering problems by applying these changes. If so, OCZ core2 might be worth picking up at its pricepoint. The stuttering was the major drawback in terms of me not getting it.
     
  17. tangcla

    tangcla Notebook Enthusiast

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    Frank, have you personally used one of these drives before?

    The negative reviews will scare most people off, BUT this depends on how the system is used. I use my Core V1 128GB drive in my laptop almost on a daily basis and it's fine. It does stutter slightly, but it's not as major as most people say.
     
  18. JohnnyFlash

    JohnnyFlash Notebook Virtuoso

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    Why not get the 250GB Vertex? I'm confused by this.
     
  19. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    From what I can pull with my research the Intel X25-M (or X25-E), OCZ Vertex, Corsair P256, or Kingston Now M, are the ones to look at.

    Intel is the most "special" of the 4, while the other 3 are more similar. Well the kingston is uniqe, fast read but slower write similar to the intel.