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    OCZ bought out Indilinx

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by mrPico, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. mrPico

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    interesting... but isn't Indilinx kinda out a style these days... I mean with Sandforce drives to exceed 500MB/s... I won't if they have something that we don't know about...
     
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    Perhaps for the purpose of budget drives.
     
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    could it be that OCZ may start producing half decent SSDs now :D
     
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    I always wondered what was happening with Indilinx. After all, I am using a Corsair 128GB Nova :) I think this is a great move as I have been quite pleased with my Nova. But I want more speed Scotty, more power!
     
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    they didn't mention the SSD things of Indilinx in the news release, so may be they are not buying it for the SSD stuff(may be Indilinx has quitted this market or failed to come out with newer one to compete).
     
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    I thought they already did these few weeks :)
     
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    wait just a little longer and it would only be worth 10million not 32.
     
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    Regardless, OCZ still bought them for a steal of a price.

    Sure they aren't Sandforce, but do you really expect OCZ to have that much cash to buy them in the first place? Indilinx was on the verge of releasing a SATA3 controller, and as I recall, Indilinx didn't fare too bad until SF-1200-based devices hit the market.

    This is a shrewd deal for OCZ. With the two engineering teams now merged, maybe OCZ can establish itself as a competitor to Sandforce-based devices.
     
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    yuio NBR Assistive Tec. Tec.

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    yah, but look at the break history of SSD's... would you buy a JMicron drive now? (I sure hope every one answers no). as new controllers come out the old ones get left behind, yes I agree there drives are still are good... if they have a competetive SATA3 chip coming then OCZ made a good buy.
     
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    It Looks like they will replace sandforce with Indilinx controllers in the future, probably a cost saving move,,,
    Sand Force may be getting too costly.


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    Where do you get that information or impression ?
     
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    Fair Question,,,, Look at the newer ocz ssd's where they reduced chip size--cost savings to them,,,and yet no substanial price reduction,,Indilinx is a controller chip company known in the ssd market,,,thus they bought it to use it..........or they just threw there money away-doubtful,,,plus the above article does say OCZ is not happy with the inked deal with Sand Force- a controller company,,,,There business so far is too cut costs and keep there prices up high,,

    Having a company in house making there controllers would give them the price at cost,,,,,,,neat. no doubt this price would be far less than sand force controllers,,,a company out there to make a profit also...............This move also gives them leverage with outside controller companies as now they merged with one,,,,,,lol

    The only senario left if the above does not happen is they acquired Indilinx to sell off there patents and assets, doubtful.

    It will be interesting to see how OCZ capitalizes on this merger




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    Er, the article says that it's safe to assume that _Sandforce_ not OCZ, is unhappy with this deal. There was no mention at all about OCZ being unhappy with Sandforce.

    That aside, reading the press release, OCZ is still using Indilinx controllers in some of its other products, and with this acquisition, there's a chance we'll be seeing a new "budget" line of SSDs, perhaps more comparable to Kingston's SSDNow series. As well, Indilinx will still be a separate company, just now owned by OCZ.
     
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    With OCZ's support staffs almost go to the length of publicly bad mouth Indilinx based SSD, I am wondering how can they sell a new 'Indilinx' based product, assuming there is no new controller in the pipe line.
     
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    Wouldn't be the first time there was a disconnect between the support staff and OCZ management. Even with the recent 25 nm flap, it seemed the support staff was well behind what was actually happening over at the manufacturing and management end (i.e. they were finding out about the 25 nm changeover from the people complaining about it, and not from their employers).
     
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    Why would OCZ be unhappy with SandForce. As I recall they were one of the biggest pioneers of SandForce to begin with, and still are. GSkill is the only company I think that exclusively uses SandForce right now.
     
  18. tilleroftheearth

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    You don't need to buy a company to get the people. ;)

    You buy a company to (legally) get the ip that company controls.

    Even if the people were exceptional, you could still buy them for a lot less than it would take to buy the company they worked for. :)
     
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    Buying a company seems like an odd way way to obtain its talent. After all, the best and brightest at any company usually flee at the first sign of a merger.

    Otherwise there would be no need for golden handcuffs ;)
     
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    You don't buy a technology company like this to get engineers. You buy a technology company like Indilinx to get some functional capability that your company doesn't currently have - intellectual property, licenses, patents, manufacturing capability, distribution capability, etc.

    If you wanted people, then you hire / recruit them over.

    It is very likely that Indilinx has some unannounced new controller that is still unreleased. And if OCZ wanted exclusive control of that technology, then buying Indilinx would be one of the very valid ways to get that exclusive control.