OEM's OC, why can't I

My question: From what I've read MFG's can buy CPU's in tray quantities or PIB (pick in bin). With PIB they are looking for CPU's that can be overclocked. They obviously “stress test” them in some way. I assume they have a quick setup that checks heat and stability. Or do they just look at them. If the previous is the case then when I overclock I should be fine, right? Because if OEM's can do it I can too? Or they are damaging CPU's and no one cares? What's your input?

Edit: Intel and AMD are not the OEM's in this scenario notebook MFG's are.

 

What? I'm not certain I understand your question? Intel and AMD typically do not cover damage due to overclocking; however there are conflicting reports whether they can even check for overclocking or if they care, as there's an implicit endorsement of the enthusiast community.

 

1st reply and good reply! I know AMD and Intel do not warranty, so drop that. Let me just ask why are there "tray" quantities and "PIB"? I might be wrong but they do exist! I am alleging if they pick in the tray and reject a CPU I do not want it because of what they have done. Or it does not hurt so I can do it also. Yes/No?

 

OEMs don't buy blank CPUs and overclock them whereever you read that it's wrong. AMD and Intel test and clock then send them out.

If you're talking about the new XPS Dell Desktop line. They just take the best Intel CPU's and overclock by about 10% which is well within the safe region. Intel won't warrant it but Dell will, but only if it fails are default speeds.

 

However, I highly doubt Intel can know whether or not you OCd the CPU.

 

OEM stuff aren't covered by Intel/AMD warranties. OEMs can OC all they want as long as they stand behind it and replace it if it goes bust. And they don't throw away some, the current Intel CPUs are way below their potential speed and it's easy to clock them up 10% without much worry like someone mentioned. And doesn't PIB stand for Processor in Box, referring to retail CPUs?

And no, overclocking does not damage cpus, over volting does, over heating does. It would be easy to detect if a cpu overheated or was fried by excess voltage, it's very difficult to tell if it was overclocked. Simply: a way to tell if a chip was overclocked = a way to to make the chips unoverclockable to begin with.

 

OK looks like what I read about PIB was wrong, and the story's about high end OEM's going in and hand picking components wrong. Looks like I had misconceptions thanks for clearing up.

 

They order in tray quantities because opening retail packaging on 150,000 cpus every day is a huge waste of time. There is no other reason.

 

I realize I was confused, had heard things that apear to not be true, but thanks.

 

the company that ships 150, 000 laptops every day must be pretty rich hehe

 

Yes, Dell is a pretty big company. What is your point?

 

150,000 every day? are u sure? I would gather it would be more like every week, have you got any link to that number? would be interesting to know how many CPUs the big boys get each day/week/year

Well they could hand pick but they probably have a more accurate way of picking the right components for an OC machine. That 10% thing could be that way.

 

I originally saw the 150k figure mentioned in passing in an article, but I found some numbers.

If there are 65 working days in a quarter, dell shipped 148,700 computers per day and HP shipped 183,000 per day in Q4 2006.

 

Wow I would gather them to be mostly business comps.