OLED Notebook display coming in one year

Samsung says OLED notebooks due in one year

It seems like Samsung is preparing this OLED screens for Q3 next year. Including this on laptops, would make them lighter, have better battery life, and finaly get rid of the TN LCD display, which has some lighting problems, distortions, bleeding, color inversion, etc.

OLED screens will be the future according to Samsung's head of worldwide sales and marketing for computers, Kyu Uhm.

 

for about a $1500- premium over current screens, that is.

 

Didn't Sony debut an 11,1" OLED screen a few months ago as a little TV set?

The key problem with OLED as far as I am aware is price.

 

Ya any new technology will suffer from very high prices in its introductory period. I remember when moving from CRT to LCD was a huge deal and LCDs were like super expensive.

 

OLED's are pretty exciting new tech, but man they are expensive. I cant wait until they get the manufacturing process down so the prices drop.

I've read about (if i remember correctly) a japanese company that is working on a process to basically just print the OLED like a piece of paper. That would be amazing if it can be perfected. Wouldnt work that great for TV's for a while but smaller screens (like laptop displays) it would be great

 

Yea, I remember seeing one on dell.com a few months ago, around CES 2009.

Oh, here I found it.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...oductdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=A2174605

 

OLED has been around for LOOOOONG time now....*yawn*

 

Really... because according to reality they still aren't being widely manufactured for more than just science projects.

The invention itself has been around for a few years (not along time), but actual use this will be one of the first actually available laptops.

 

...........

 

hahahahaha
Supposedly, if this is coming into notebooks, it will be a premium, just like LED is.
LED standarized replacing CCFL, and OLED taking LED's place.

Hopefully, display manufacturers will see taht people prefer this over a TN display and get OLEDs, and eventually make them cheaper...

 

Science projects?? LOLzzzzzzzzzz!! OLED has WIDE spread use in countless products like cell phones and MP3 player displays for the past 4 years. OLED is nothing new. Making a large OLED display is not a big deal either.

*YAWN*

 

All this yawning is making me tired:SLEEP:

*yawns*

 

Honestly I'm not too impressed. Maybe I'm hard to impress, but with any new tech, you only get to choose 2 of the three, often less. From OLED reviews its expensive and the quality is really good, but the battery life didn't really change either. I'm guessing if the quality is in line with regular LCDs, battery life might be better.

 

I think the Cowon S9 has OLED and it has been out for about 6 months.

 

The Zen Micro mp3 player from FOUR years ago used OLED for its display.

 

OLED displays have been available for a while in cell phones and mp3s in particular (largely due to the power savings inherent to OLEDs). It may not be "a big deal" to make a larger OLED screen, but with current technology, it's too expensive to be feasible - that's the main issue.

@iGrim: if you really want to project a "holier than thou" attitude, you should stop using "LOLzzz". It makes you sound like an overconfident preteen.

 

Its good news

I remember a few years ago when they had a engineering sample screen up to about 10" size

It’s just like ssd's, as the technology matures and more manufacturers get screens into production ,the prices will get more affordable

 

People have to buy the expensive stuff before it gets cheaper.

 

actually, oleds should provide better batterylife.. they don't burn battery life while displaying black, f.e. (that means black will be the new .. black.. for os styles )

 

Wow, that does sound nice I wonder how it will look...

 

Ive seen a few (tiny) OLED displays on PMPs and phones (like the new Omnia HD and Cowon S9) and they look amazing. The blacks are just pitch black, and the motion is very smooth. Its like looking at a tiny CRT tv.

At the moment they are only affordable in those small sizes, like 3" or 4", but eventually they'll come down in price, same as everything. I think the first 42" Plasma screen I saw in a store was like £12,000, now I could get one for €600.

 

My Sony X1060 has an OLED screen - yes, when you first look at it you think "wow - great colours" - but sometimes they are a tad oversaturated and somehow I no longer think the display is that much better than my SZ's LED screen...

 

oleds for phones and mp3 players and such are the best thing ever. they don't consume much power per illuminated pixel AND they don't consume power for a black pixel (that is perfectly black, then).. the result: you could have some screensaver that is fully black, with only some info displayed in faint illuminated grey. still readable, and only using a tiny fraction of the fullbright screen => lasting for ever nearly like epaper in that regard but they can go bright, and colourful, and smooth and all.

 

Except if they use touch screens...

The touch screen in the X1060 eats up batter like I don't know what.
And the screen itself also seems to need a fair lot of energy.

Don't ask me why...

 

because it's no oled, then?

touch and screen shouldn't eat much (except when bright, of course). if it's a resistive touchscreen, it shouldn't eat up power at all? dunno


well, it is an oled. but still, what i talk about is, when ever you turn the screen "off", it just shows a "black image", nothing else required to use no power. on an lcd, the backlight have to be turned off, and on again. the oled could turn off except for some small clock-display, and then save a huge amount of power.

 

I doubt Sony would lie.
The player is said to play 31 hours (just music, no enhancements etc.) and I think it does that
The touchscreen isn't resisitve - its capacitive that may be why.
I can empty half the batter in maybe 5-6 hours whe using the touhscreen a lot.

Changing title wth the "sensor" off (via HOLD) but buttons on uses a fair extra bit of energy too, but not as bad as the touchscreen.

I think its said to do about 15-20 off hours of video - I could possibly find the exact value, but that's 30-50% less than music...

 

well, obviously, while glowing bright (which it would be, while watching a movie), it consumes power. but unlike an lcd, where each pixel consumes the same amount of power (as the light behind shines, no matter what the display shows), the oled would not consume much power f.e. in the movie 'tron', as it's mostly black.

and as such, the GUI of such devices should be mostly black to save battery power.

 

There actually is a fair bit of black in the GUI.
But if you get album pictures they tend to be coloured

 

LOL that's my quote..... and yes i am an overconfIdent teen..

 

if OLED = black blacks I'm sold and I'm going to be one of the first here to own one (with in reason of course).

 

Today in our local paper there was a big article about some worker for Dupont was trying to fly back to China to give them all the knowledge of Dupont's OLED research. They caught him though.

 

I really hope this comes thru fast and well done, because it may prove to be the end of the "carrying the power brick" for netbooks (if an EEE does 8 hours with LED, with OLED what, 12? lol), and would provide laptops a thinner profile (which is useless unless you give a better battery life) and a better battery life, with "true" colors. In the end, paying the premium might just worth it!

 

Poll added to see what people in general think.

 

I hope they do come out soon. It will be nice to have a really efficient screen that will be VERY thin. Just a screen and a thin sheet of aluminum or plastic will be all that laptops will need for a lid.

The only thing i worry about is on 17+in laptops i wonder if the lids will be sturdy enough to really be "ultra thin"

 

Well, 16+ could be an exception, where they are thicker.
But 14- could easily be ultra thin and light, and finally have a thin and light and powerful laptop that gets a good battery life...
(am I dreaming??)

 

well, for the bigger laptops, they could make the lids thicker, and put some useful stuff in there, flat stuff like the ram, or flat ssds, and such, spreading the components to allow for better cooling, too..

i personally don't like thin lids, i like same-thick lids as the "body" of the laptop (as with my 2710p and 2730p), so filling there more stuff into the lid would allow for an in-general thin laptop, that does not have a wobbly breakable lid.

 

I don't really care about thin laptops, but I love the idea of more powersaving.

 

Well, I prefer lightness over thinness but if both come hand-with-hand Ill go for it, as long as I keep my power.

 

My SZ has an overal pretty thin lid and I wouldn't call it wobbly.
Its actually quite tough...

About the poll - I tnk I'll vote "yes" but the difference to bettr LED screens will only be noticeable in a side by side comparison and may not even be toeveryone's liking.
I think my Sony's X-1060 OLED screen ca easily look oversaturated on photographs... (or album pictures)

 

My studio xps's LED screen is literally only 1/4" thick. It's somewhat flexible but it won't break easily. I don't see any reason to make them any thinner than 1/4"... And Like Dave said, they can put other components into the lid if OLED's are so thin

 

OLED vs LED? You mean OLED vs LCD, which has been used (in a few different forms) since the beginning?

 

Blacker blacks plus lower power useage = big improvement.

Cost is not the only problem--the longevity currently leaves a bit to be desired too.

 

I did not know they had a severely limited lifespan. How short is it supposed to be?

 

I don't know how long they last, but if it lasted 4 years before serious degradation, I'd be extremely happy. Hell, I think 3 years would be more than enough. I doubt most of us continuously use a laptop for more than 3 years before we upgrade, lose it, break it or just stop using it. I know I'd upgrade every 2 years if I had the money.

 

4-5 years for me.

 

Well, this is a couple years old, but . . .

Source: http://electronicdesign.com/Articles/Index.cfm?AD=1&ArticleID=17283

Whereas newer matierals have a longer life but are expensive:

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dupont-crafts-ultra-longevous-oled-materials-which-likely-wont/

 

Could you imagine the different component colors of your display fading at different rates, or even fading at all?

 

When I say LED, it is implied that it is LCD, but since LED is the next standard over CCFL, and OLEDs might take some time, I am wondering how the OLEDs will be an improvement over "standard" LED LCDs.

 

oleds have true black. LED based LCDs don't.

and oleds don't consume any power displaying black, LED based ones consume 100% the same power as when illuminating white.

they will be a huge improvement, i personally can't wait to see them in a next version of my tablet. for outdoors, it will be amazing to read such a display (enhance contrast as needed, won't consume more power, but the bright parts get more bright, better to read)

 

Just by the way - I can 't read my OLED Sony player any better than my laptop outdoors and in sunlight...

But that may be because the OLED screen is pretty recessed into te unit due to the capacitive touchscreen.