OLED screens, when?

Saw my first OLED screen yesterday and the quality is unbelievable. Crystal clear picture, brighter than the Sun, and flawless viewing angle….I stared into this screen dead center and slowly moved to a 90 degree angle….and the picture never faded. Amazing.

OLED tech is young right now so the screens are still tiny and extremely expensive but as the tech matures all laptops will be equipped with OLED. The question is how long will it be before we begin seeing the first OLED equipped laptops, and what company will it be?

My guess is Sony will be the first, and probably two years from now (2010).

 

exactly led is dead

 

Lcd not led, because as far as I know oled still still stand for organic light emitting diode. I don't think we'll see a lot of them before a while: they are friggin expensive for a small screen....

 

^totally agree!

 

You know something, I am surprised at how quickly LED’s are being integrated into laptops. Dell now has units with a 15” LED screen, forcing other manufacturers to catch up. This is good for us because it may mean LED comes sooner rather than later….and my guess is many laptops receive an update with LED screens this year.

My point here is this: if the turnaround for LED from design, to testing, to manufacture has been this quick….it bodes well for OLED. Does it not?

 

I wouldn't be that optimistic. The reason - there is no such demand for those on the market now. Current TFT and LED screens for laptops are quite effecient, especially ones from Sony. Viewing angle might not only be the advantage here - you get less privacy when used in a public place.
The real area of implementation I think is mobile phones and TV sets. Samsung here is on par with Sony. For example, have a look at the new Armani phone. It's equipped with wVGA OLED screen from Samsung. Both companies have advanced well on TV market too.

We might see first OLED laptops by 2010. Somewhere at ultra-high-end desktop replacement systems, not very portable) IMHO

 

OLED will be portable NJoy much much more portable than any current solution. They can make displays almost paper thin with them. Problem is that the half-life (not the game) of the material is not that good so the display dies too soon and production cost is high since there is no standard process yet.

These things are amazing, like what we always saw in sci-fi movies with the screen that just sits in the middle of the air and is semi transparent. OLED can do that, if I remember correctly its the blue material they are having issues with it lives only half as long as the green and red material and they were working on ways to make it last longer before they looked into any real monitor replacement use.

The next big thing in monitors in my opinion will be CED, the combination of CRT & LCD to get the best of both worlds.

 

The blue issue was solved about 3 yeards ago by Cambridge university with about 100,000 hours at low intensity and 20,000 at about 400 nits high intensity. This is longer than the life ratings from most LCD, Plasmas and even CRTs, and usually equates to about 10-15 years of use in a high daily use TV using about 6 hrs/day. For laptops I doubt the OLED screen would fail before the other components, and right now most backlights on CFL lit screens have an estimated lifespan of 5-10,000 hours, so compare to the current most popular option OLED already has greater longevity than the current options. LEDlit being the transition competition and only slightly longer lifespan.

Uh, I doubt it.

I assume you mean SED or FED? Well they're pretty much dead, eh!

OLED and laser projectors that's the future.

 

It's an entirely different design.

LED screens refer to LED backlighting of the LCD panel. An OLED is a completely different technology which is in its infancy.

How long did it take for plasmas to come down from $14K for the first Philips 42" standard definition to current prices? That's what you're looking at.

Cheers,

 

The nice thing though is that with the slightly easier production requirement for even the TFT based OLEDs, I think once they do roll into mass production they should go faster to wider adoption and lower costs & prices.

It's been a long time coming, that's for sure. I was hoping the early 2" ones on the back of those Kodak cameras would start the ball rolling and even those 10" Mitsubishi TV ones looked like the start of commercial production, but can't believe it took about 3+ years later at the end of 2007 for them to even show any size commercially and that Sony would do it with the 11 and 27 inch models.

I have a feeling it was IP issues more than physical constraints that held back prodcution. Just a feeling I get from when technology goes gangbusters up to a point and then suddenly a big gap of nothing (could also be major technology fault, but doesn't feel like it, definitely not just the 'blue issue').

Anywhoo, a nice WQXGA 25x16 OLED laptop screen with 12x8 4:1 pixel ratio would be sweet, and I don't think that's practical for many reasons with LCD, but OLED should allow us that nice resolution on something like a 17" screen.

And just to geek out for a second for even smaller size displays you could achieve insane densities with multilayer displays for camera backs and video camera viewfinders or the external LCDs for technologies like sideshow could offer a true small representation of what's on the big screen inside. Cool stuff, but that's definitely the later side of implementation.

I'd think we'll see high end ultra portables with OLED screens easily by 2010, but how long before they make it to other areas (either 17" gamers or 15" general public models) that likely depends on success of those early high end/expensive models IMO.

PS, I still remember when I first heard about the film printing method being as easy as inkjets and relatively cheap back in 2000-ish, thinking of OLED wallpaper, lotsa small issues (connections for pixels, alignment, hardware requirements for driving anything with any real pixel density), but maybe someday, that OLED walll that one moment gives you a huge TV, then the next a beach or mountain top vista, and then the next dinner beside the Eiffel Tower or Sidney Harbour, etc. would be sweet.

 

2010 at premium price. 2014 at semi reasonable.

 

I'm not sure what's holding up OLED. My old Motorola Timeport cell phone had OLED back in 1999 or so, and it had all the amazing advantages of OLED back then. Then it seemed like the entire tech disappeared for five or six years, before showing up on some cheapo digicams before mostly disappearing again. Now there's some rumblings of consumer sets that will be on sale at some point.

To be honest, I think there's something going on other than tech.... maybe IP or other issues. Again, I have an OLED cell phone right next to me (just plugged it in, the screen is just as stunning as always) that I was making calls on 8 years ago.

 

You can actualy buy the 11" Sony right now from the Sony style online store;
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...1&storeId=10151&productId=8198552921665327724

But exactly what I was talking about those original Motorola's were the first shot, sure their colour range was limited, but it was a good start, and then the Kodak LS633 which weren't really cheapo, they just weren't a wel recognized name, but they were ok to good quality (not poor) for the point and shoot crowd. Sure it's not like their 14n I used to borrow from the University, but it wasn't bad.

Here's an old preview from 2003;
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0303/03030216kodakls633.asp

The thing I remembered the most was the vividness of the display especially under bright light where most washed out, even now my G9 doesn't do as well on a sunny day IMO.

Anywhoo, it's these apparent successes that made the slow pace a little more baffling.