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    ORTHOS is not fully stressing CPU?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Chango99, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. Chango99

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    I'm a bit confused running ORTHOS, it seems it's not stressing my CPU enough or maybe something's up with my CPU? I ended RM clock in processes and ran RM clock and windows energy screen saver, my GPU temps are about right, but my CPU temps under stress just don't match up. I should have the worst temps I have recorded, but it's not. I put it on top of wood without raising it's back and ended RM clock, so no undervolt and no cooler, but my CPU temps after 35 mins only reached 62C and 60C.

    The attachment is the one doesn't coincide with my other tests.

    This temperature is from when i was testing to undervolt. I had it on top of my cooler but the fan wasn't on. I had not undervolted yet. I stressed only the CPU using blind test on ORTHOS. I reached 74C and 72C on the CPU's. I should be getting higher temps on the one in the attachment.

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    This was after the undervolt. These are higher than the one in the attachment.
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    This was after an undervolt, having it on top of wood. Stressed the CPU with orthos and GPU with screen saver. (I kinda find it odd the temps here are so high considering before an undervolt and having it on a cooler without the fan on, the CPU are the same temps.)
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    This was after an undervolt, on the zalman cooler. Stressed the CPU with orthos and GPU with screen saver.
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    What laptop do you have and what CPU do you have?

    I have an undervolted Intel T2500, and my max temperature is about 60 to 65c underload. So your CPU temperature with undervolt are fine.

    With Orthos you may hae to run two instances to max stress your CPU.
    If both you're cores are at 100% in the task manager (accessible via ctrl+alt+del) when running Orthos (1 or 2 instances) than your CPU is mas stressed.

    I think that your CPU and GPU cooling system are somehow connected. I don't know if you have two fans inside your laptop or only one.

    If you have two fans, it seems that your GPU fan is configurated to kick-in at higher temp. than your CPU fan. Which means that understress some of your CPU heat is passed over your GPU.

    If you have one fan, this means that even when doing light things such surfing the net, you're fan must kicks in every now and then to cool your GPU.
     
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    No, how does this one work? Isn't it just a benchmark? I just tried the 32M benchmark and it ended in 52.2 seconds
     
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    In my sig, HP dv5t with a P8600 2.4GHz processor. Not sure about the GPU/CPU connection, but yes, the higher one is, the higher the other one will probably be by a couple of degrees. My CPU is under 100% USAGE.
     
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    The Intel Core2Duo P series is cooler than the rest as it generated a DTP of 25W against 31 to 35W for the T series.

    In my opinion the hotter bit in your laptop is the GPU anyway

    Prime is a benchmark that max stresses a CPU just like orthos.
    Some like Prime and wPrime and others like Orthos, it's a matter of test I guess

    Edit:
    If both cores at %100 than orthos is doing it job. Are you using one or two instances? I think the last version is multithreaded so one instance would be enough.
     
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    I know the P series is cooler, but i'm wonderng why my testing right now the temps are so low. Right now, i'm stressing using orthos again, my CPU usage is 100%, but my CPU temps are only at 50C at 15 mins. This is with RM Clock off... What's going on?
     
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    what's the ambiant temperature?

    Are the tempreratures recorded with RMclock (without undervolt) the same as CPUID?
     
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    Ok ***...? After 20 mins, I stopped Orthos and my temps were at 50C. I turned on RM clock which should lower my temps because of undervolt, but when i started Orthos, instantly my temps shot up to 55C, then right now 64C and 62C and still going slowly now...

    What is ambiant temp? If it's the first temp, it's at 74C. And with RMclock you meant (with undervolt)? Yes the temps recorded are same.
     
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    Not the CPU temperature but your room/house temperature? :)

    As I guessed you have only one fan and both CPU and GPU cooling pipes are connected.

    Your cooling system is 16 in the pictures.

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    Oh lol, I'm not sure what my room temperature is right now, and i don't have a thermometer to check.

    Any help? Why is it my temps shoot up when RM clock is on?
     
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    you mean the max temperature before your laptop shutdowns?

    you don't have to worry about that. A none undervolted core duo reach in some cases 70-80c and sometime even more. The CPU is designed to support 120c or there about. If temps goes any higher than 120c, the CPU will turn the laptop of to protect itself.

    I personnaly don't like that a CPU and GPU shares the same cooling system. That said your PC looks fine to me. Your GPU temerature is sometimes higher than CPU do to this:
    1- Descrete graphics run hot
    2- some of the CPU heat is passed through the cooling system to the GPU and vis versa when the GPU will be underload.
     
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    Huh? I don't believe that's very relevant. :X I'm wondering why my temps are lower when RM clock is off. When RM clock is on, the undervolt is supposed to be active, so lower temps. But I'm getting lower temps without RM clock so it doesn't make sense. I'm just worried of something is wrong with my processor or one of these things. I don't think i'll hit a danger point on temps.
     
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    please correct me i'm wrong as it seems that we are not talking about the same thing.

    1- CPU temp core0 = 32c and core1 = 31c without RMclock and with Orthos OFF? (Attached picture)
    Right?

    2- without undervolt + laptop above cooler and cooler off
    CPU temp. is core0 = 73c and core1 = 71c (1st displayed picture)
    Right?

    3- with undervolt + laptop above cooler and cooler off
    CPU temp. is core0 = 61c and core1 = 60c (2nd displayed picture)
    Right?

    4- with undervolt + laptop above wood
    CPU temp. is core0 = 51c and core1 = 52c (3rd displayed picture)
    Right?
    So with the undervolt your CPU ru

    5- with undervolt + laptop above cooler + cooler ON
    CPU temp. is core0 = 62c and core1 = 59c (4th displayed picture)
    Right?

    So your questions are:
    a- why the CPU is cooler in the attached but not dispayed picture?
    well if your CPU is idle that it's normal than the temperature is cooler in the attached picture than on the displayed ones

    b- why the CPU is cooler on the wood and on the cooler (with cooler off) than with cooler on?
    I've never been fan of cooling pad because from what I've read in different forums that they the temperature only by few degrees. In addition if the cooler is not specificaly designed for your laptop it may make your laptop hoter. I mean if the coolers fans are not located in the right location below the laptop

    To struss the GPU you should use a proper benchmark as the screen save is not hard on the GPU.