P157SM eurocom 1070

I've come across an interesting limitation on my laptop. No matter how hard I try I throttle down with power limits even though I have a 240w PSU to 1070 Max q levels. This is a gaming load and appears to hit the limit immediately upon loading. The eurocom store I bought from switched the card I bought out (a msi) with a GTX 1070 eurocom, telling me it was better for my laptop since it wouldn't require modifications, and it was more expensive. No matter how hard I try I can't push this card past this limit, and it even dips down into the 1100/1000 range.

I would be grateful if anyone could provide some help here.

 

What load was that under?

Can you also have hwinfo running in the background to show the maximum power consumption (in watts)? To confirm since your gpuz doesn't show a power reading, though green as a perfcap/limit reason in GPUz is power limit.

They're right in that you'd need to mod the chassis to fit the different shaped msi 1070. Did they disclose a lower power limit though?

 

No disclosure of a lower power limit for this card. Max wattage was 93.6w. other things in system are 4ddr3l 4gb sticks, 4810mq. The load was final fantasy xv.

 

Also, with the calculator for psus, I got 300w needed at minimum. It explains also why my 980m throttled in some games as well. I suppose I'll have to remove some things and test it.

 

There is supposed to be a 90W sticker on the Eurocom MXM 3.0b 1070:

 

Why are people still buying stuff from these guys?
They screw Prema over, they sell exploding VRM 1070's, now they're turning them into Max-Q's and selling them for a non Max Qrippled price?

 

According to the sticker the card is running at 90W's. So theres that. I guess you'll have to get a programmer from china and change some things. You can look for that on the Pascal TDP thread.

It's kinda weird because according to Eurocom the card should run at 115W. Not to mention that the card can be undervolted in afterburner for better performance.

 

I think i'm going to send it back for a replacement that's the MSI.

 

If the Eurocom/GeCube card runs at 115W, it goes poof sooner or later.

 

Got ahold of a 330w Delta for an alienware. Still running into a Power limit with my p157sm. Is there any special instructions to enable the full use of the 330w? I already set the Id to ground.

 

i still dont get it why that is though. 115W isnt that much, plus the euro versions have the full ten mosfets installed on the top end of the card...compared with the gecube's version 6.

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I think it's because they might be low quality. Rfs1j and rfs19 with a prefix of 4cbn. No idea. Rep told me they have two bios versions though. 90w and 125w. I elected to just go with the MSI since I'll likely be able to use it when I get a better laptop, to it's full potential. So far the process of exchange has been pleasant, especially the speed of everything. I just wish when I asked if the cards were the same, they would have told me about the power limit being only 90w. I can push my 980m to about 108w without bios mods. The rep did also say they limit these cards to 90w especially in models like mine, which makes sense considering the p157sm is at essentially 170w with a 970m.

 

If you're not hitting the limits of a 230W (overcurrent/overheat protection means it'll shut off), a 330W will not help in any way. (It'll just weigh more and probably last a bit longer due to being under less average load over its lifespan)

To raise your GPU's power limit you need to mod the vbios and flash it, which is risky as the point of the lower power limit on your card is that the vrm cant handle it

 

108W thats comparably low. ive got my 980M undervolted to 1v and am pulling 120W+ during gaming at stock clocks while staying in the mid 70s max at high ambient temp (25-27C). so thermally a 115W card would be no issue whatsoever.

funny that they sport 90W and 125W vbios versions. how about making one with the advertized 115W?

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Eurocom and GeCube cards are the same. Here is GeCube card on Taobao.

The one with fewer FETs was probably a prototype.

 

oh i know theyre the same. just wanted to differentiate the early versions by gecube and the current version also sold by eurocom

 

The difference is that the crappy 90w one they offered me FOR THE SAME PRICE AS THE MSI ONE died the same day when gaming on my dell precision 7710, it only used about 83w, I asked for an exchange with the MSI one and could not be happier. Had it for a month, stress tested it, played many games and it runs fine. Not to mention no power limit throttling and the core boosts to 2000mhz! Although the card uses 140w which is kind of pushing the limit on the mxm slot of my laptop, I also needed to upgrade to a 330w dell power supply as my battery drained when playing assassins creed origins.

What I learnt: NEVER BY THE 90W OR 115W GTX 1070 FROM EUROCOM, JUST DON'T! ALWAYS BUY THE MSI ONE EVEN IF IT COSTS MORE!

EDIT: Optimus works flawlessly with the MSI card, it's a pain to make it work with the eurcom one

 

Finally got the MSI in return! (Damn Easter) alongside a motherboard for my p157sm. After replacement and some modifications to the case, I fitted the card and became worried that it would be the same case of throttling as the eurocom. I experienced some throttles, and remembered I did a fresh install of windows.

After all the bios updates and getting everything up to speed (including effectively upgrading to a p157sma through board replacement) I tested it once more.

120w but with a much higher clock. It trades blows with the 1080 Max q and on final fantasy 15, went from 4600-5000 to 6200-6300 on 1080p on high. That's an improvement of almost 50% from the eurocom. I'm pretty happy with this outcome, and despite the faulty 330w I have (returning tomorrow) I'm still pushing a good 230w with all involved. I expect to be able to hit 1070ti levels if I truly overclock. For now though, the beast is sated. I can all new and old games vs the stuttery mess that the eurocom had.

 

I can say thoith that despite the issues I did have, eurocom was extremely accommodating and even upgraded shipping to one day overnight for me.

 

If you are lucky you can overclock both core and memory by 500mhz and end up getting a score of 105% on userbechmark which is amazing compared to 89% But if you do this it will pull way more than 120w. Clevo’s are known to power throttle above 120w too unless you have the 330w psu handy.

 

I don’t think you’ll be able to make it to gtx 1070 ti performance levels without an overvolt, temps will increase dramatically from there on. You’ll get close to a normal gtx 1080 mobile gpu which is faster than a desktop gtx 1070 at least.