P7350 + 4670m = lagging on 1080p content

VLC is becoming quite trash for windows, yes OSX version is much better, and currently Im trying to watch some bluray movies that I got, and Im getting quite a bit of lag here and there, here is what Im getting

100% stress of cpu and gpu

changed output resolution from 1080p to 768p, it didnt quite work

Shutdown teamviewer, I use it as a remote control, since Im going to do other things while watching something

Have tried Media player classic, its worse than VLC

Forced gpu decoding, didnt work

TLDR is there anything that I can do or use to play my files?

 

Seems to me that your gpu and cpu/platform is just getting too old to support the latest (much more compute intensive) workflows you require.

Time for a new system?

How much RAM do you have installed?

You can try cleaning/re-pasting the gpu/cpu and cooling fans/fins - also try do a clean install of your O/S with just the software you need (not just want).

As for the comparison to OS/x? I don't think you're using a platform as old as your Windows machine?


Sorry I can't offer more suggestions, hope others have better solutions for you.


Good luck.

 

Try potplayer or mpchc latest release(beta, which incorporated lav filter).

 

The 5000 series was the first GPU line that could decode BluRay video.

 

I think you might be mixing up 3DBD and BD. The 5000 series added 3DBD support. H.264 decoding has existed on AMD GPUs since the 2000 series, I think. The 4000 series certainly did.

OP: May be the newer updates made the player more memory intensive? How much RAM do you have?

 

Try downloading coreavc and setting up kmplayer or potplayer to use it for playing your blueray movies. That way my GF can play bluray rips (8gb) on her p8600.

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ah thanks for the answers everybody

The rest of the system is win 7 ultimate 64bit and 4gb of DDR2 800mhz ram, along with a slow 5400rpm hdd.

that system is mainly used for htpc, I dont want to pay for the mDP to HDMI cable for the mac to be used like this, which it does play BD files plenty fine with no lag at all.

regarding the vlc becoming junk for windows, its simple, it doesnt offer the same set of features and has its own problems, for example its a common error to have the audio fail after closing it when its playing something, and that leads me to a mandatory reboot. its way less stable in general.

So I will try the other apps that you guys have mentioned.

In the end I agree with tiller I think I will have to purchase another machine that has a dgpu in it, I think I wont escape next year and will buy something

 

A dgpu is not needed for bluray playback on newer processors (think any full voltage sandy bridge up or apu), but it is something good to have if you design to go beyond basic playback.

 

I don't think your system's hardware is inadequate.
It should be more than enough (performance-wise) to play 1080p Blu-Ray content.

Given the symptoms you described, is it possible that your GPU (4670m) is not activating to play the movies on it, but instead, the CPU takes the brunt?

I stopped using VLC player some time ago and have replaced it with PotPlayer (I also, occasionally, use Windows Media player with Shark Codecs for Windows 7).

Have you checked your GPU utilization during 1080p Blu-Ray movie playback?
I suggest using GPU-Z to check for that.

Otherwise, its also possible your GPU drivers do not support this specific feature (in a manner that they could be outdated).
Have you tried updating them?
Also... if worst comes to worst... you could ultimately attempt a full Windows re-install to see if that solves the problem.

A new laptop would certainly be good for more performance in terms of doing more than simple movie playback... but as I said, your current hardware should be more than adequate for that function alone.
Even your GPU is more powerful than mine, and in that sense, I'm still playing some rare recent games (I'm not a big gamer really and FPS does not interest me, but the games I do play seem to run just fine mostly on High settings - Batman Arkham City included).

 

Agree with that. Even with loop-filters enabled and so on, gpu should be more than fast enough to play 1080p content. Maybe some quirk going on with direct rendering. Blu-ray as well is difficult that way - licensed players always have their own rendering pipelines, the free ones don't do encrypted content, or does it very slowly. (..you'd get lag on any system then.)

 

yeah my gpu utilization is at 100% and full clocks when playing BD, the strange thing is that it doesnt happen in all BD content that I have, just some as I have noticed, probably because Im bed ridden and this is karma and the blu ray for macross frontier just arrived

I will test potplayer, didnt yesterday because my fever was very bad

Im not that of a gamer as well, but I like decent and reasonable beauty on the strategy games that i play, for some like SoaSE I dont have a problem running it on HD 3000, but I cant really play decently the newer tw games, its a lag fest the max I can do without getting a terrible amount of lag is to have 1vs2 battles, i.e. 40 vs 80, and the engine allows for 4 vs 4, i.e. 160 vs 160

 

Have you tried media player classic with k-lite 64 bit codecs? That's what I usually use and it works fairly well even on older hardware.

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The P7350 is definitely slow for BRD decoding.

Maybe try MadVR (GPU based renderer) with Media Player Classic - the 4670m could be able to handle it... Also overclock them both if possible...

I don't know why both the GPU and CPU are 100% loaded, that seems weird...

 

VLC has hardware encoding.

but things are quite better with potplayer, its just not a good player as vlc once was. to get the subtitles its a pain

 

There are a ton of keyboard shortcuts for Potplayer, you should be able to find one. I know at least when it was KM Player [Alt]+[x] toggled subtitles.

 

it toggles on or off, it doesnt let you select one. For example, I got some BDs that i have ripped so that I can watch with subtitles, unless I put the same name as the movie file it wont read it, nor there is another option for it. its pretty annoying, since I still have to sync that thing... and if one doesnt work I have to redo the job again whilst removing the file from the playlist (i do like that it saves where you stopped your movie, but in this instance its just more work)

ahhh I just wish that vlc got its game together again

 

Not all 1080p content is the same. Some requires a lot of muscle while some can play smoothly on older hardware.

 

Mm. I actually saw a rip a while back that would have croaked pretty much everything. So.. enjoy the post-nuke era, I guess

 

yeah, I just saw a BD rip that I made for the macross frontier, the first was OK, the 2nd movie, jesus lag fast here and there

yeah... I think I need to get some guts and be ready to buy a notebook, Im always chicken out since the vaio z2, that will be next year off course