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    P8600 Vs. T8300 Processor............Whats the Diff?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by benbeck08, Jul 15, 2008.

  1. benbeck08

    benbeck08 CCNA/A+ In Progress

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    Anybody know? They're both 2.4 ghz............Is one better than the other?
     
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    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    The P8600 uses less power and gives better battery life. And it uses a different socket.
     
  3. benbeck08

    benbeck08 CCNA/A+ In Progress

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    I see thanks.....how about speed? theoretically the same right?
     
  4. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think the cache amount is different, and the one will the less cache will probably not be as fast.

    But will you notice the difference? Probably not.

    Go for the 25W part.
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    P8600 is the 2nd generation Penryn processor for the Montevina platform. It has 1066 MHz FSB (which is not supported in the Santa Rosa platform, which the T8300 belongs to). It is a medium voltage processor with a 25W TDP, as compared with the T8300's 35W (this figure is usually the maximum power under real world situations and should give you more battery life; however, how much exactly is questionable). Performance wise, they should be about equal.

    edit: Greg, cache size is the same - both 3MB.
    benbeck, same overall speed.
    jayayess, supposedly uses same socket (P) and battery life has yet to be determined.
     
  6. Phil

    Phil Retired

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    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    So monteveina systems are shipping, pretty cool.
    The price difference is probably huge, cause of the very recent release, so check the market back in say a week or two and the prices should be much lower.
    The apparent speed between the two will not be noticeable at all. The P8600 may use less power, but it will still get as hot. This is because most laptops have the fans come on when a certain temperature threshold is met. Usually 160F or so. The P series processor use less power, so it will just take a little longer for the fans to come on.

    I would usually say to get whats cheaper, but if the P series processors are just being released and teh premium isnt too high, I would get it because the likeliness of upgrading in the future should be great.

    K-TRON
     
  8. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    OK, does the same laptop have an option for both the T8300 and the P8600..??
    If so, does the manufacturer sells that laptop with two completely different motherboards, depending upon CPU choice..??
    If not, then does the Montevina chipset provide backward compatibility to the 1st gen Penryns..?? :confused:
     
  9. notyou

    notyou Notebook Deity

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    It will be highly unlikely that the same laptop will support both the 1st and 2nd generation of Penryn CPUs. The reason for this is the motherboard, SR MBs only officially go up to 800MHz (200x4) while the new MV is 1066MHz (266x4). So, assuming the sockets would be the same, BIOS support is there, and you get one of the good MBs that could potentially go up to 1066MHz, it theoretically is possible to run a 2nd generation Penryn on a SR chipset, however, I'd doubt these stars would line up so don't bet on it. The MV chipset will allow for backwards compatibility to 1st gen Penryn, but why bother, I'd pay a premium for same CPU performance but 10W less power consumption.
     
  10. benbeck08

    benbeck08 CCNA/A+ In Progress

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    Cool thanks everyone I was just wondering cuz I ordered my system a while back and I wanted to see if there was a diff. or not
     
  11. YennoX

    YennoX Notebook Consultant

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    Don't worry, the T8300 is still relatively new and powerful, so it will last you a long time.