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  1. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    so far from the preliminary results Im loving the new MBA SSD, and given its apple it should trickle down to all its notebooks, I just hope its M.2
     
  2. qweryuiop

    qweryuiop Notebook Deity

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    dude, apple LOVES one word and only one word, "proprietary"
     
  3. sangemaru

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    @qweryuiop: Haha, that's true.
    In a completely unrelated notice, what's that CPU you're sporting there?
     
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    qweryuiop Notebook Deity

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    its the sample CPU i got off ebay, which is:
    Advertised as 3720QM ES QBC1
    CPU-z gives me the name of 3720QM
    Clock speed and L3 cache size identical to the 3820QM
    Has unlocked multiplier that is only available on OEM xm chips(3920xm)
    can overclock above 4 Ghz
    thus thats how I call it, 3720XM
    though IF CPU-Z gives out the name as genuine intel CPU
    I'd say most people will call this the 3820qm
    or even 3820xm since its unlocked.....
     
  5. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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  6. qweryuiop

    qweryuiop Notebook Deity

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    just a reminder, the SSD in the rMBP has SATA 3 speed..... but we don't see an msata SSD, nor a SATA SSD, but instead a "proprietary" slot that has all the 6 Gbps connection pins being made more compact

    now back to the macbook air: Sata express pins with an ever-so-slightly smaller than M2 slot?
    take the other source in hand: mac pro PCIE flash storage, just not in PCIE slot shape
     
  7. qweryuiop

    qweryuiop Notebook Deity

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    P.S. they didn't solder it on board simply because there are many different storage size configuration, and SSD controllers might experience the panic lock by accident, if this never happens I'd pretty much guarantee it will be soldered

    another question out there, storage expansion on the "R2D2" must be via thunderbolt, however do they work on native SATA speed or must go through signal conversion i.e. speed lost
     
  8. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    I will prentend that I understood what you said here

    apple applied gains of economy scale, its appears that they will use the same SSD for all their machines that can deal with an SSD, last year there were only 2 machines that didnt use the proprietary format, mac mini (unknown strange reasons) and the mac pro (dat old guy)

    so its safe to assume that whatever the hell they are using there will be on the other parts
    apparently there will be other storage parts in that droid, there is a rumour about sata express support up to 3x or something and maybe 2.5'''

    I think there will be a signal conversion here. since the system will probably use ACHI on the controller for the storage add on, though my knowledge on this is fairly limited to say the least
     
  9. sangemaru

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    So CPU's like yours are the reason for the ES craze :D Awesome chip mate.
     
  10. qweryuiop

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    And thats why intel is trying to stop people from selling them since technically they are stolen....
     
  11. alfaunits

    alfaunits Notebook Consultant

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    From Anand: " Update: It's a custom Apple design, not M.2. ".

    Not sure what all the fuss is about, VAIO Z has had faster SSD with proprietary SATA interface for several years.
    It would be nice to see a move towards NGFF/M.2. for laptops in general though.
     
  12. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    the fuss is vaio Z uses raid 0, thats operating something with a gun pointed at your head
     
  13. alfaunits

    alfaunits Notebook Consultant

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    So? WHo cares... the speed and reliability is important. Whether they use magic or RAID is none of my concern :D
    I would prefer it be non-proprietary so I can change it without extortinate prices, like Apple's :) Or Sony's :)