PINmod guide Core2Duo

Hi all
I've read the thread about pinmodding a Core2Duo:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...uo-core-2-duo-by-pin-mod-part-2.365230/page-1
Well it is a very old thread but i'm interrested in that because of my old notebook which i want to cool down.

The opener of this thread (naton) had linked a file with his experiences in pinmodding his T5300. I'd like to do exactly the same thing but the file isn't available yet, so i'm looking for it, is there someone who still have the file?

Thanks and cu

Frit42z

 

Get Coollaboratory Liquid Pro, clean your notebook and cooling unit, get some isolation tape, apply isolation tape around CPU die, apply liquid metal and u're done.

You'll get insane temperatures. Even pinmod won't even remotely get you the same temps liquid metal would give you.

 

In deed that sounds interesting, i'll try it together with pinmod to get the most "insane" temps ;-)
Is there really nobody who has the file yet?

 

Honestly I wouldn't bother with pinmodding unless you plan on overclocking it. If you pinmod for better temps you will gain almost nothing since the liquid metal will cool it down to the point where it won't matter.

 

My Notebook is standing in my living room and because of the temperatures of its CPU the fan starts running every 5 minutes. In my oppinion this noise depends on how much energy my CPU consumes, if i lower its consumption the fan will run less often. The kind of themal paste i take has no influence to that, sure it may lower the temp of the cpu but the thermal energy which has to transported out of the system is exactly the same... By this reason to me its the only way for really lowering down the temps (and the noise) by decreasing the energy consumption and that could mean: 1.less load (=more idle states), 2.less frequency and 3.less voltage and 3 is more important than 2
Am i wrong?

 

You're very wrong.

The problem u're facing is that your current system cannot get the thermal energy properly out of your case because the connection between your CPU die and heatsink isn't optimal. If you use liquid metal you basicially connect your CPU die much better to the big heatsink making it shove the thermal energy way more efficiently out than before, that's why thermal compound is needed in the first place. By undervolting your C2D CPU you will only get a small improvement compared to the liquid metal, this has mostly to do with the architecture not being very efficient, you shouldn't undervolt your system since the CPU is much more stressed than back then.

1.) Less load is NOT true. Your CPU is way to old to actually idle, even basic things as surfing with firefox will fire up the CPU. Even running windows 10 will give it at least 15-20% usage.
2.) Frequency is the same, unless we talk underclock and not undervolt, which i highly do not recommend since it will make your system unusable, it's already very weak as it is.
3.) It's not less important, since you can only undervolt so much.

Again, if you simply want your notebook to be quiet, go for liquid metal. Underclocking a C2D in 2017 is a bad idea and undervolting a C2D is also not great.

 

You are right when you say that the effect i can expect by undervolting is less important because of the low possible differences in voltage changing, what i say is that there is an effect.
You are absolutely not right with the first thing you wrote. My problem is not a bad connection between die and heatsink. We are talking about a current, the current of heat and if we have a "resistor" (=thermal paste) between the components the heat will generate a core temperature that is a little bit higher than it could be (i guess ~2-5K) but the amount of heat that has to be transferred out of the case does not change by another thermal paste and the fan has still to do the same work (=same noise). Thats a physical fact.

 

I suggest taking physics class then.


Guess it's all delusion then.
People are delidding and applying liquid metal getting around 20C temp improvements because....magic.

In the end it's all up to you, you got the information you needed, if you refuse to believe anyone, then deal with loud notebook.

 

I'm hesitant to suggest this, since you shot down the previous person who attempted to help you...

Why not try Throttlestop? You can lock the CPU multiplier down to a lesser amount, which, depending upon your workload, may reduce noise. This works quite well if you're only running basic tasks and really don't need full CPU power anyway. For tasks that require brief spurts of full power so that the CPU can settle back down to idle fastest, this can actually cause the opposite effect: more heat. It's free and pretty simple - might give you what you are looking for.

Danishblunt has a point. A good thermal interface material and in particular liquid metal can make a difference to heat. Results do vary but I'd be inclined to repaste with liquid metal (Caveat: assuming your heatsink is either made of copper, has a copper coating and a good connection). This may not be what you want to hear but from a practical level, I wouldn't spend too much time improving a system that rocks Core2Duo - eBay has newer systems that sell for cheap and will be more appropriate.

I wish I could help with the pin mod. I've only ever used a pin mod to raise the FSB speed on an ancient Pentium M and while that did increase the CPU speed, it also increased the heat output.

 

It wasnt my goal to shot down anybody, if it did sound like that i apologize!
I thought we had a discussion and yes for me it sounds a little bit like magic that i could decrease noise by using another paste but i'm not allmighty and i know that i don't understand everything on this planet, thats why i started to discuss and i would be happy if i could understand how it exactly works.
I'm thankful for your suggestions and maybe i've chosen some wrong expressions, i really never wanted to struggle...

I tried Throttlestop, the effect is the same as when i use rmclock, the multi is allready at 6x and the VID is at 0.9V but i'm sure the VID could be lower...