Pascal MXM GPU Upgrades

@Prema has made a poll here:

https://polldaddy.com/poll/9501858/

Do you already own a recent MXM system and would like to upgrade to Pascal? Are you among those that is used to always getting the most of your high end laptops by upgrading GPUs for a tiny fraction of the cost of a new machine? Are you angry about the lack of options and feeling like you got screwed by the proprietary new Pascal crap?


Here is your chance to voice your opinion! Please vote and comment.

 

Do you already own a recent MXM system and would like to upgrade to Pascal? Are you among those that are used to always getting the most of your high end laptops by upgrading GPUs for a tiny fraction of the cost of a new machine? Are you angry about the lack of options and feeling like you got screwed by the proprietary new Pascal crap?

Here is your chance to voice your opinion! Please vote and comment.

>>> VOTE HERE <<<

Thanks to Brother @Prema for creating the poll for us.

 

Ooops. Did not see the duplicate thread in the Clevo subforum. Can these be merged in the generic sub-forum so it is not limited to Clevo participation? Best place for it is Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...pu-upgrades-please-vote.795171/#post-10321229

 

Added the description from your post to mine. Let's get the voting underway!!

I feel like it'll get better recognition in the Clevo sub-forum. Maybe we can have it both places?

 

Done zo.

 

I reported it to the moderators and ask them to merge and move to the harware and upgrades sub-forum, so I'm sure one of them will do that when they get a chance.

 

Threads merged and moved. The redirects might seem a bit weird, but everything should be working properly.

 

How long do the redirects stay for normally?

 

Just voted and massive LOL at the "I prefer to purchase a complete new Notebook over GPU upgrades!" option having 0 votes.

Not happy with Clevo at all and I will have to consider who i buy my laptops from in future, highly unlikely to be them!

 

Done. Hope the right people see this ...

 

i want so bad LOL

 

I feel the same way. I'm very angry at Clevo, too. Problem is there is absolutely no acceptable alternative. BGA turdbooks are totally unacceptable, so that leaves Clevo and.... and......... and.......... desktop.

 

Done zo.

Yeah, already have 2 of these puppies : http://ark.intel.com/products/81061/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2699-v3-45M-Cache-2_30-GHz

Time to order the rest.

 

We can actually set those to whatever we want. I set the redirects to 5 days.

 

Done, glad to see this come up, Hope this will introduce some change, remembering that Ngreedia Clockblock fiasco..

Thank you NBR/TI.

 

just buy a chromebook and a hedt desktop

less headache

 

you mean NVIdia ? They will hardly care. They also informed all of us in 2014 that the MXM cards were going away, at least the way we knew it, they even told us the cards are going to be like the 980DT models when the 980DT models came out from now on.

Essentially if you used or purchased a laptop that could only use a single one of those cards, well, you are only going to be able to use a single one of those cards.

Now - it DOES seem like they still are producing the older cards, but they were supposed to have stopped. I guess they see that the cheaper older sizes still have some value, i.e like the 1060 N17E-A1-G1 versions seen about. Also - they showed two of those in a car computer system way back I think, using the black PCB.
Those should offer some performance increase over 980M when in SLI and using 4K resolution and doing VR.

small fun fact. did you know the MOQ for Clevo's is 300 laptops a month for 3 months, paid in advance, to get the first reduction in price/discount.

There are tons of products I can get all over the world that would offer MOQ's of 10-50-100 etc...

even becoming a DELL partner sports 15-25% discounts laptops with no minimum to buy.

There are reasons why Clevo is stuck where it is in the world and never gains ground to companies like MSI/Alienware/ASUS. Real shame.

 

Yeah much better option, but I need portable power, can't go that route, not yet.

 

vr backpack

 

I was thinking Clevo, since presumably they could have come up with a GPU form factor that worked for our machines. However, based on the rest of your description of them, I am being wishful that they would care.

I would love to see the economics behind the engineering decision. Clearly those who purchased P870DMs (and some of the other models I am less familiar with) must fall into an enthusiast/need a workstation market segment. I'd love to see Clevo's analysis and assumptions on who from this group would upgrade their GPUs or do nothing if there was or wasn't an upgrade path available. I would have thought it to be a no-brainer to give an upgrade path. Annual notebook upgraders would have bought one anyway - those who want/need the latest and fastest. The rest would be upgrading the GPUs over the next 0-3 years and be a steady stream of revenue. Not sure why that was ignored ... some of the GPU upgraders may be converted (like me potentially), but I am guessing that most will not, and will just keep their current (expensive) laptops.

 

You better do a wPrime, Cinebench, 3DMark 11, 3DMark Fire Strike and 3DMark Time Spy run when you have them all set-up!

Which motherboard you going for? ASUS dual socket?

Yet the Quadro M5500 (full GM204 core [2048 cores]) has a 150W TDP, no external power needed and is in standard mxm 3.0b format. Makes you wonder why the others couldn't have been the same way.

 

Yeah still deciding between an ASUS WS or a Supermicro board. Though leaning towards the ASUS. Got both these chips from a workstation at work with a dead motherboard, someone kicked the system and Dell refused RMA xD

 

LOL

I'm assuming this one? https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z10PED16_WS/

The ASUS one is nice and supports SLI as well if you want to make it a monster gaming rig as well. I don't know if I've seen a dual socket supermicro with SLI support.

 

It was actually the D8 , but the D16 seems to be more future proof. For some reason i missed it.
Only thing im worried about is that a lot of people have mentioned that D8 had issues with Linux , and i will be having a Scientific Linux install along side W7 and W10. So still gotta look into all of that. Super Micro however seem to work without issues with Linux distros.

 

Where to vote?

 

that's more then the MXM 3.0B slot can deliver. At best it can dish out like 125W usually.

 

Just to share with you the numbers that led to the recent decisions:

According to Nvidia HQ only 1% of their user base cares about upgrading GPUs on mobile systems...

 

People just dispose off their machines way sooner and keep on drinking that Kool-Aid crap, More like crApple dumb iSheeple flock, whoa "this that", buzzword click-bait noob fallacy.
Sad, 1% GG.

I'd love to keep my machine for more time, kinda develop bond overtime since getting knowing tak & No not those VR backpack stuff, If I really want powah, 870DM2/3 775DM3 all the way, no gimping or proprietary B$ allowed.

 

Voted! Let's get High Performance laptop computing back in line!

Give ME MXM!

 

I left a vote and a message. Apologies for the potty mouth

 

done aaaaand done!

 

Who is silly enough to listen to Nvidia about such things, and worse yet, make their business decisions based on Nvidia's polls?

Everyone is hopped up on the 30%+ growth of the Windows gaming market, and in the same breath, the same set of actions, they kill the dream that drives that growth?

What a mess Nvidia has caused

 

Thanks for the share.They're too dumb to know any better. How could anyone with half a brain not want to be able to upgrade a GPU...desktop or mobile

 

How many smart, successful, busy people stop and take a survey when asked?

They got the reactions and answers of the people with enough time and little care for that time, to answer the questions.

What did they expect?

 

Is that 1% of all Nvidia GPU owning customers - mobile laptop, handhelds, tablets, gaming devices, or 1% of Nvidia mobile 980m/970m MXM customers?

I think Nvidia messed up - that 1% number should be 10% or more if measured from the right group, the only group that knows about and seriously considers upgrading their GPU to Pascal - Nvidia 970m/980m MXM GPU laptop owners.

Nvidia, thanks for screwing up again.

And, Clevo, MSI, etc. - Wake up, do your own thinking. If it sounds wrong, guess what, it is

 

Ha ha ha, if it would be anything else than 1% of MXM system owner, it would be quite the farce...

 

AAAhhhhg!!! I don't want to be mad at Nvidia and MSI too but I understand...It will be more work for Nvidia but more money so I take that back I don't understand

 

If Clevo relied on data that says 1% of their customers care about GPU upgrades, then we may as well all forget about purchasing high performance notebooks forever and go back to building our own desktops. I find that difficult to believe. It flies in the face of the fact they used desktop CPUs. If 1% cared about GPU upgrades, even fewer than 1% would care about having a good CPU.

Now, 1% of notebook owners, yes... I could believe that because being an idiot is the norm. That's why BGA turdbooks exist. There is no shortage of stupid. But, 99% of all Clevo owners being retarded seems like a stretch. If it is true, then we're all screwed because stupidity en masse is almost always fatal.

Ultimately, this will be their loss. My budget for disposable BGA filth is capped at less than $500. Any notebook that cannot be upgraded for at least 3 generations of GPU releases is a worthless piece of garbage and I will not waste my money buying disposable feces. They can bend way over and kiss my gluteus maximus.

 

We are the 1% lol

BTW any way to make the poll show how many specific votes have been made per choice?

 

chromebook can be bought for less than 200$

it's a shame that clevo has the best hardware but loses in terms of screen/keyboard/pricing compared to other brands

 

And, I think that's were I am headed, too. Once I sell the P870DM-G on eBay, I'll get some disposable piece of trash like a Chromebook and put the P750ZM on eBay. Once both sell, I'll start buying parts for a desktop build. I'm done with retards. The destiny of the high performance notebook industry is controlled by complete imbeciles and dominated by low life Steam punks with turdbooks.

 

We've been in the top 1% for a long time. There's no room at the top for trailer trash BGA gamers and that's part of why being an arrogant elitist is such a wonderful thing. You also don't have to wash your hands with antibacterial soap nearly as often.

 

done

 

Nice to see 2/3rds would upgrade and half of those are going desktop...

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So awesome! Bought my P870DM-G almost 2 months ago, plopped extra money and modding into it, and my prayers have been answered! No support for Pascal Cards!!! WOOOHOOO I'm so happy I don't know what to do with myself. I think I might... go desktop in the future? What a weird idea...

/sarcasm
Voted +1

 

Yeah, I'm also going for PC build and some Chromebook or 2in1 tablet...

 

me too was hoping i could upgrade to a 1070 but whatever ill build myself a small box with a mini 1060m in it or buy one of those egpu but i lose my portability. rip to our laptops.

 

eGPU is Plan B if I can't get what I want for the P870DM-G. If push comes to shove I will sell the P750ZM to help defray the cost of a Razer Core or TUL Devilbox with a 1080, but that's still just one GPU. That doesn't really sound totally satisfying to me. But, it is definitely better than the poke in the eye with a sharp stick we all got from Clevo this time around.

 

Egpu + 6700k and we should be good for the forseeable future but i really want an upgrade to atleast a 1070. This is just depressing. Willing to sell for a small loss but losing 500usd is out of the question for me if i decide to sell. But the way i see it, i think that should be the case because a 1060>980m. Only the desktop cpu is holding my laptop up in price! Have i known this was going to happen, i would not have bought a laptop last february! Should have gotten a aw13 refurb(whatever)for my gaming needs and held off til today. Money i spent on my system was from my savings and some graduation money! And i am currently looking for a job now hopefully getting one by the end of the month and will definitely get myself a new one when the new cpus are out or when i sell my system(thats if i dont take a huge loss) whichever comes first i guess.

 

Yeah, I agree with most of that except for the AW13 part. I cannot be part of contributing to their delinquency as posers. For ethical reasons I refuse to purchase anything from them. But, I'm not going to sell anything at financial loss either. That will just exacerbate the trauma. The machines we purchased are truly amazing products that set the bar the rest of the industry. The only thing wrong with it is the horrible self-centered business decisions made by Clevo after the fact that leaves each of us with a sore and bleeding posterior orifice.