Patriot Warp 2 SSDs

I just noticed these Patriot SSDs on newegg, and they seem extremely cheap, and because all the patriot products I have used were excellent, I am interested in them. Wondering if anyone knows anything about these SSDs, because their claimed speeds are something to WOW about for that price.

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=patriot+ssd&x=0&y=0

 

"the Patriot 32GB SSD hit read speeds of close to 130MB/sec and write speeds of over 70MB/sec. All that and access speeds are, of course, lightning fast."

Taken from here.

Doesnt look like any marked improvement over what the competition has to offer.

 

I was talking about the ones that have "claimed" 175MB/s read and 100MB/s write, making it faster and cheaper and possibly more stable than OCZ ones. Think they're new though >_<

 

Yeah, I think they are new too, as there's no reviews for them out yet.
I was looking at them too and looking forward to see how it performs.

 

So does anyone know if this uses the same crappy j micron controller as the previous patriot ssd?

 

Does not use Jmicron
AFAIK< this is a good SSD

 

Wow...nice pricing there...

 

Here's a review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gPcGb_Hdyg

It certainly looks interesting but it may have a JMicron controller, just like OCZ Core. Although the guy in the video says the small writes are fast.

 

read 2 posts back it

 

I read that but I'm not convinced The fact that it is on exactly the same price level as OCZ Core makes me wonder.

If this SSD has no drawbacks, I wonder why it has been so quiet around it. I hope you guys are right though. This would mean a very attractive SSD at a very low price.

 

omg, those are rele cheap aha. I would consider getting a 32GB just to install windows on.

 

Anandtech does mention the Patriot as the same as OCZ Core.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3403&p=11

 

http://patriotmem.com/forums/threadp.jsp?threadid=2632&catid=1
Official post by patriotmemory about not using the same controller as OCZ
While the SSD does not meet its claims in speed, I think the random small writes will be OK
Could Anandtech have been talking about V1 of the Patriot Warp? Apparently, that version sucks, and while there is little reviews, I haven't heard anyone saying the V2 sucks.
Well anyways, I may be getting one next week from NCIX and I'll give my review on it (>_< guess I'm gonna be the Guinea Pig...).

 

ahh .. it's not the time yet, I shall wait an year more. Less than 128GB is not working for me, I would prefere 256GB (below 200 bux)

price is getting down though, good

 

Double check the thread you linked. Someone posted the picture from anandtech, and they clearly used the v2 @ anand.

 

Perhaps they are wrong about the controller.

We'll see..

 

Ill buy one tomorrow, maybe it will arrive in 1 week.

 

According to this picture:
http://anandtech.com/GalleryImage.aspx?id=3815
It does use the Jmicron controller
FAIL!

 

I just bought one... I hope its better than my 320gb WD blue @5400RPM.

 

Well, I couldn't resist the 32GB patriot Warp V.2 for basically $100 after shipping... Tempting as it is, I'm still refraining from opening it up due to those pesky "Warranty void" stickers. Anyway, doing an IOmeter 100% random write test came back with a whole 1.5x better performance than the core, that's right, a whole 6 IOPS! >.> After that, I at least tried doing a WinXP SP3 install - had no issues getting it up and running, but even after all drivers were in place there was still noticeable UI stuttering/lag. (Main example being open/close a program, then try to double-click another program on the desktop and it'd just sit for a second or two without any indication that you'd even clicked before suddenly popping up.) Anyway, it's now running as just a secondary drive, after all, the read speeds are great as expected so long as that's what it's doing, and since most games don't write to their program folders, it doesn't have to contend with its still-present achilles heel.

 

Have you made bechmarks?, is it faster than a regular laptop hdd? thanks

 

I've just run IOmeter with a random write profile as well as ATTO. The IOmeter run confirmed that random writes are still messed up. The ATTO confirmed that it does get up to around 170 MB/s reads and 90 MB/s writes when it's all sequential. No question it's fast, but whenever it hits pausing/stuttering it feels slower than any normal HDD.

Yeah, I know it's a laptop forum, but this is with a desktop 965/ICH8 system, where the other drive is the 1TB Samsung. Compared to that, yes, it loads things up a bit faster, but subjectively it's quite annoying due to the pausing/stuttering. I'd imagine that it'll load things even faster compared to a laptop drive, but will still suffer from the pausing/stuttering. Can always hope that it won't though.

 

How often does it slutter/pause? is it really REALLY noticeable? thank you rep+

 

It seems to always have that second or two 'pause' after doing anything that would cause a few small writes (such as closing a web browser.) During that time, clicking on say 'My Computer' wouldn't result in the icon being highlighted/nothing would actually launch. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a matter of windows file IO getting confused/hung. Anyway, I wouldn't say it's -that- bad, but it wasn't an improvement for a boot drive compared to what I had due to that issue. It's quite content loading up games though, nice and snappy there.

 

+1 for the information

That doesn't sound good at all . By any chance, can you take a video of what the stutters are like?

 

Well, don't have easy access to something to record it with, dunno if a screen-capture thing would document it properly or not. That, and I quickly got annoyed enough with the behavior to just set up the drive as a secondary for program files =P

Supposedly, this behavior can be minimized in Vista somewhat by write caching. Then also disabling page file and auto-defrag (applies to XP3) helps. It's basically a matter of minimizing writes done to the drive, since whenever a write does happen it's likely going to pause for a second or two. It's not a hard lock, mouse still moves, didn't think to test video/audio. Maybe I'll reinstall XP on it tomorrow to play with that thought, then after that maybe play with Ubuntu to see how it's file IO handles it, hehe.

 

Thanks for that information Khato. Well it confirms the Patriot is using a JMicron controller so it has the same problems. Hope V3 will be better.

 

I ordered one to install as my drive for an HTPC. This will allow me to pull two hot 7200 RPM drives out of the chassis.

Big storage is off the box anyway, and turning off swap and indexing on Vista should help make life good

Cheers,

 

Got Patriot V2 32GB from Newegg. It does not work with Acer 4420-5963, which was its intended purpose. Now, I use it as my OS drive for my desktop. So far it is has been good. I have 8GB of RAM and turned off the swap file.

I wish that Acer will update the BIOS so the lappy will work with it.

 

I had 64G ordered from Dell Canada and it promptly went back. Stuttering was so bad for my scenario.

I had two samsung SSDs so far (gen1 and gen2) I never had this problem.

 

I've been running the Patriot 64GB SSD for a few weeks now and have absolutely no problems with it. I had the 7200 RPM drive originally and there is a clear improvement in responsiveness using the SSD.

I actually went through the list of performance optimizations recommended for SSDs, so that could be part of why my experience has been so positive. This includes disabling superfetch, disk defragging, search indexing, 8.3 filename support, turning off swap (I have 4GB of memory), etc.

Quite frankly I'd recommend this upgrade to anyone. To go along with it, I picked up a 16GB SD card (just to store media on) and a $20 USB housing for my original 7200 RPM drive; which I'll haul around if I need additional storage for the day.

 

Replaced a Fujitsu 5400 RPM 120G platter drive with a Patriot 128G v.2. Subjectively there's no change in performance but Vista Home Premium reports performance jump of 5.0 to 5.9, almost 20% faster. YMMV, but for my money I'm returning the $260 USD Patriot 128G and buying two $70 USD Seagate 7200 RPM 320G and pocketing the $120 difference.

EDIT: My Toshiba x205 SLI-1 will not come out of sleep with the Patriot 128G v2. I get a message indicating I have to use the system restore disks to repair the OS. Patriot gets negative extra credit.