The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Pentium Dual-Core T2310 1,46GHz vs Celeron M540 1,86Ghz

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Huck, Jan 9, 2008.

  1. Huck

    Huck Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I have one question.

    Should I buy notebook with Celeron M540 1,86 GHz and 2 GB RAM or with Pentium Dual Core T2310 1,46 GHz and 1 GB?

    They have the same price.

    Other components are the same (Intel Graphics Accelerator X3100,...).

    Thanks.
     
  2. Sipha

    Sipha Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    8
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Ill say the T2310 and buy an extra Gig of RAM when you can.

    I bought 2x 1Gb Sodimms from Ebay for about £35 ($70) and they are usually easily upgradable, unlike Mobile CPU's.
     
  3. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,024
    Messages:
    7,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    get the dual core its faster than any celeron
     
  4. moon angel

    moon angel Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    2,011
    Messages:
    2,777
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I agree with this.

    This however is entirely wrong. Presuming this is the 1.86GHz Celeron-M 540, then in single threaded apps the Celeron will win out for outright speed. They have the same 1MB L2 cache and the same 533MHz FSB and are based on the same Merom core, however the Celeron has 400MHz extra clock speed, so in a single thread application (as most are) the Celeron would be faster.

    That said, the T2310 will have better battery life due to speed stepping and is dual core so will handle multitasking better. I'd say get it because of that, not because it's faster. Because it isn't faster.
     
  5. PhoenixFx

    PhoenixFx Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    744
    Messages:
    3,083
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Celeron is a single core 32bit processor, while Core 2 Duo has dual cores with 64bit support (and usually more L2 cache as well). Therefore even at lower speeds a Core 2 will perform much better under load (when running multiple apps). As Sipa said, RAM is very cheap and easily upgradeable.

    Get the Core 2 and upgrade RAM yourself.
     
  6. moon angel

    moon angel Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    2,011
    Messages:
    2,777
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    56
    The T2310 is a Pentium Dual Core, not a Core 2 duo. It does not have more L2 cache than the Celeron, but as you say will be better with multiple applications. It is Merom (same Core as Core 2 Duo) so we'll assume it has 64 bit spport.
     
  7. benx009

    benx009 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    184
    Messages:
    663
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    are you sure about this? i would think that you would get better scores in super-pi (single-thread program) with a Core Duo than any celeron. i know that my desktop celeron D (2.8 ghz) was killed by my friend's core duo T2310 (took over three times longer to calculate 2M), both of which are on a 533 FSB. or does the L2 cache (256kb on the celeron vs. 1 mb on the core duo) make that much of a difference?
     
  8. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

    Reputations:
    2,962
    Messages:
    8,231
    Likes Received:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    216
    That's because the Celeron D and the Pentium Dual Core aren't based on the same architecture. At equal clockspeeds a single Merom core will rape whatever core (Smithfield?) is in the Celeron D.

    According the Moon Angel the cores in the Celeron 540 and the T2310 are the same and therefore the Celeron's higher clocked single core will outdo a single core in the T2310.
     
  9. benx009

    benx009 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    184
    Messages:
    663
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    ah, ok, thanks for clearing that up ;)
     
  10. moon angel

    moon angel Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    2,011
    Messages:
    2,777
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Also, for the third time, the T2310 is a Pentium Dual Core, not a Core Duo or Core 2 Duo.
     
  11. unknowntt

    unknowntt Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    94
    Messages:
    652
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    LOL I could not have said it better myself, rape lol!

    Anyways yeah, it's PENTIUM DUAL CORE PEOPLE, NOT CORE DUO OR CORE 2 DUO!!!!

    It's a PENTIUM DUAL CORED DAMN IT PEOPLE!!!!
     
  12. mikelets456

    mikelets456 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    36
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The T2310 is indeed a CD2 (Core 2 Duo) chip running at 533 MHZ sys bus and 1 MB Cache....Go in to CPU-Z. It is clear that it is a Merom core 65 NM and used with the 965 Chipset. Runs 64 bit programming, etc....

    FOLKS, FOR THE 4TH TIME IT IS A CORE 2 DUO WITH 533/1 MB INSTEAD OF 800/2 MB!!!!

    It's not the yonah "Pentium" chipset!!!!
     
  13. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    7,101
    Messages:
    5,757
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    FOLKS FOR THE 5TH TIME! No I am kidding! OK I read up on it and as both are based on merom as has been stated, which is Core 2 but it is not Core 2 (marketing). The Celeron will be faster on single threaded applications as said but let me suggest that in real world "perceived" performance the Pentium Dual will do just as well, and also will actually win outright in many real world situations (as Moon did point out). Working with an Office document does not require the power of either so no benefit will be perceived. When encoding mp3's and working with an Office document the Pentium Dual will be at least as fast and start pulling ahead especially the more demanding the tasks are.

    As an add on, I am starting to suspect that "clock for clock" the Pentium Dual will beat the Core Duo's, why, well PD based on the more efficient Core 2 architecture where the Core 2 is between 20% and 25% faster than the Core Duo in Dhrystone and Whetstone. Well with these Core 2 benchmarks, show the L2 4MB is on average 3.5% faster and at best 10% vs L2 2MB, well I know adding more Cache starts to have less and less of an impact. I do recognize the difference between 1MB and 2MB might be more but I doubt it rises from 3.5% to 20% to 25%. I did not even realize or consider before reading this thread that PD might be better than CD.

    Back on topic, get the PD as all around everyday usage I think it will feel like it performs as well or better. Watch a video and encode an mp3 at the same time PD crushes Celeron.
     
  14. aalvarezch

    aalvarezch Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    GET THE PENTIUM DUAL CORE 2310 .. NO COMPARISON WITH THE CELERON!

    just type t2310 in "you tube", see the benchmarks..