Pentium M vs. the world!

1) What Athlon 64 desktop CPU is equivalent to the 2.0 Ghz Pentium M 760 (533mhz FSB - 2mb Cache - Dothan) ?


2) What Athlon XP desktop CPU is equivalent to the 2.0 Ghz Pentium M 760 (533mhz FSB - 2mb Cache - Dothan) ?


3) What Intel Core Duo notebook CPU is equivalent to the 2.0 Ghz Pentium M 760 (533mhz FSB - 2mb Cache - Dothan) ?

Any estimates or comments apreciated

 

Interesting, also don't forget core 2 duo.

 

Just my guess, I know it's hard to find benchmarks against different chips.

I'd guess that Pentium M and Athlon 64 are about equal clock for clock.

I don't think you can compare Duo v. Pentium M since the Duo part make the whole system so much more responsive at the OS level.

Desktops will have faster hard drives. Athlon bus speeds are not all that much faster. DDR on the Athlon64 I rekon.

Integrated video on the Pentium M laptop v. a desktop with a video card is advantage dekstop as well.

Pentium M is a good chip, it's just that it's single core, which, is, just so 2004.

 

From benchmarks maybe an athlon 64 3200+ or 3400+ (2000Mhz - 2200MHz)

The closest is a 3200+ but this is significantly slower than a Pentium-M 760, being closest to a Pentium-M 740, doing 1M digits of pi in 44 seconds to the P-M 740's 42 seconds (depending on the laptop of course).

There are none really. Even a low-end Core Duo will hit 2M digits of pi in 1:22 and that's about 10-15 seconds faster than a P-M 760 and only using one Core.

 

calculating pi is just one of many, many cpu-intensive tasks. comparing cpu's with just one benchmark is quite silly

 

If you would like to provide a comprehensive comparison between these cpus including all levels of benchmarking software then be my guest. If not then please refrain from posting so critically without posting anything that adds to the subject of the thread.

While super pi is not the only benchmark and being single-threaded is not really useful for dual core cpus, it does give a basic comparison of cpu performance.

 

since you're already compared athlon 64 vs pentium m you should see the diff with athlon xp. or do a athlon 64 3200-3400 vs xp.

intel core solo is a better comparison with pentium m as they are both 1 core.

my guess is you want to see if you're getting a pentium M laptop is worth it? If you gonna be playing games then intel core duo or even a solo for further upgrade is better than pentium m. but if you're not, you'll never need core duo.

 

this is but one of many reviews available for free: http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/dfi-855gme-mgf/index.x?pg=1

Yes, I know it says 'Pentium M on the desktop' but that's how CPUs are reviewed.

To give you an idea why one should never rely on 1 benchmark, I give you a graph from the aforementioned review, showing that the Pentium M is obviously a dog slow processor.


http://x010.uploaderx.net/x/wb-videowave.gif

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html

 

Reminds me of a thread I replied to in off topic involving Core Duo users. How nice it is to be proved right!

 

Pentium M's aren't bad. It still takes a lot to slow one down, they are great for the vast majority of laptop users, even gamers. They might not be the latest and greatest, but I would reserve dog slow for my cell phone's processor.

 

Right. I think that statement that P-Ms are dog slow lacks perspective, it depends on what the user needs. I have a media centre that is used exclusively for downloading, playing music and watching dvds and vids in avi/mpeg format etc. It has a slot 7 Pentium 3 cpu at 700Mhz and that, while being far from the forefront of cpu technology is perfectly adequate for such needs. Much more power would be a waste of money in that case.

Even the fastest Core 2 Duos would have trouble keeping up with the fastest of overclocked pcs and they're all based on... you guessed it... Celerons.

 

The Pentium M is not a "dog slow" processor in the least. It doesn't compare with a Core Duo or any dual-core processor for that matter, but I believe it is actually a bit more efficient than the Athlon 64 clock-per-clock.

I have done many things on my Pentium M, including but not limited to intense gaming, encoding, Photoshop (using multiple 5+ megapixel images), and moderate multitasking (virus scan + a few other things running). It is always pretty responsive; as long as there are enough CPU cycles free, it multitasks just fine. It has not been the bottleneck in games as far as I can tell.

I'm not saying the Pentium M is the fastest processor - it is probably on par with a Celeron M 400 series today (based on the Yonah core) - but it's not slow, and works fine for most users.

 

I guess I'll have to apply 'sarcasm' tags. I wasn't trying to say that the Pentium M is slow, I just wanted to point out that no single CPU benchmark can be trusted upon to determine whether one processor is faster than the other.

As the video encoding benchmarks in the Tech Report review show, the Pentium M is rather slower in that field than other CPUs. However, other parts of the comprehensive review (you should read it!) show that it's easily a match for the Athlon64's in gaming benchmarks.

 

I's suggest adding smilies (winking ones are good) to sarcastic comments to imply you are joking, otherwise most users will assume you are being serious. A lot of users have very strong opinions on this forum and similar statments are often made in all seriousness. Sorry for the misenterpretation.

 

Never mind

 

Actually, it was obvious... (these are for sarcastic comments not the winking ones)

 

It was only obvious because you have hindsight and now know it was not meant to be serious. As two other users took it to be serious I think that it being obvious is not the case at all.

As for rolleyes being for sarcastic comments, it depends on your interpretation. The rolleyes smilie can be used in many ways, to express different things. For example:

'He always says something like that! '

Not a sarcastic comment but a valid use of rolleyes. Alternatively, the wink could be used to clarify that a comment is sarcastic rather than serious, e.g.

'We all know Celerons suck '

It all depends on one's interpretation and the circumstances in which they are being used.

 

No, I was here and I took it sarcastic...

Otherwise, some people always misinterpret things when they have nothing to say but that's really not my problem and I don't care...

 

Maybe you have a similar sense of humour to the poster then. It would seem that others (including Chaz) do not.

 

You realize that this is not OT so, let's don't make redundant posts.

 

Yes, the topic at hand has certainly gone askew.

 

Right. I think we'd all do well to try to adhere to that.

 

The Pentium M does have a weak point when it comes to rendering, and here are some other benchmarks to look at:
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=dothandesktop&page=12

Although it is only average at video encoding, the Pentium M does pretty good when it comes to audio encoding.

 

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just some articles that I found in my browser's history...

 

Cool those are some great links, thanks.

 

That was a problem being descendant of the Pentium III architecture, which had a slow FPU, even taking into account SSE/SSE2. In cases where the FPU does the heavy lifting (audio, video encoding) a Pentium M will find itself at disadvantage against an equivalent Athlon 64.