Pics of Mobility 6000M

Enjoy~~~~~

 

Cant see it right now on this firewall but did your face look like your avatar when you saw them?

Im imagining its all naked, exposed silicon curves, nice robust capacitors and a pcb that is to die for.

<3 Gadget Pron

 

It has an xfire connector and is running on a system with 920xm. Hopefully I can drop 2 in my M17x.

 

Mem chips rated at 1250 MHz?

Notebookcheck says they are clocked at 900mhz, so at least the vram should OC well right?

EDIT: Maybe I'm wrong, it's probably going to only be running with 1.35V and not 1.5V (guess 1.5V would be for the chips used on desktop cards).

 

18454 with an i7-920xm beats the early score of 17817 for the GTX 485M with an SB i7-2630QM that notebookcheck.com posted for the new Clevo.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 485M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

memory on ati cards are know for overclocking well my 4850 mem is 800 stock and i can push it all the way to 1200 without a single stability issue

 

But resolution is unknown, maybe 1024 x 768.......

 

True...I also don't know if it's a single card, but I'll give that score the benefit of the doubt for now and say it was run at default. :wink:

 

Yes, they should overclock nicely. Where did you get that picture with the voltages ?

 

Thats a pretty bad screenshot. Would be nice to know the settings it was run at. And if that was a Crossfire score too. Call me skeptical, but I find it hard to believe that between the 5870, and 6970M, there was an 80% increase in performance, being that the crossfire 5870/920xm combo scores about 19K. Just find it hard to push an 18K stock score with a 920XM.

Now if the GPU score on the 6970 scales with the CPU, it'll be interesting to see results with a SB CPU.

 

GPU-z would be more interesting to me. Using 06 to evaluate new cards today is a total fail.

Anyone notice that looks like a dell part number sticker?

 

Yea, GPU-Z is what I wanted to see too. And I actually did think that looked like a Dell sticker Lets hope it's compatible. If it is...my wallet will hate me.

 

Alienware

 

Yup I noticed the Dell P/N sticker too.

 

Can't wait to see the benchmarks if you do!

 

It was from the 4th link:
Google

Don't know why but I can't link it directly.

 

I am a bit confused. As far as I know, the 1.35V versions of the GDDR usually have an L at the end, with C marking normal 1.5V memories.

Moreover, you guys said that the memories in this card are clocked at 900 MHz, but if they are 1.35V then they are specified to work at 3.6 Gbps and thus they should be clocked no higher than 800 MHz.

 

Maybe the new 6970m actually uses a 1600 shader part instead of a mid-range 800 shader part they tried to pass off as being high end in the 5870m?

 

Wouldn't 800mhz mean the speed is 3.2 Gbps?

 

Here's the final specs for 6900

TeraScale 2 Unified Processing Architecture
◦960 Stream Processing Units
◦48 Texture Units
◦128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
◦32 Color ROP Units

■Engine clock speed: 580-680 MHz
■Processing power (single precision): 1.1-1.3 TeraFLOPS
■Polygon throughput: 580-680M polygons/sec
■Data fetch rate (32-bit): 111-130 billion fetches/sec
■Texel fill rate (bilinear filtered): 27.84-32.64 Gigatexels/sec
■Pixel fill rate: 18.56-21.76 Gigapixels/sec
■Anti-aliased pixel fill rate: 74.24-87.04 Gigasamples/sec
■Memory clock speed: 900 MHz
■Memory data rate: 3.6 Gbps
■Memory bandwidth: 115.2 GB/sec

For 6800
TeraScale 2 Unified Processing Architecture
◦800 Stream Processing Units
◦40 Texture Units
◦64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
◦16 Color ROP Units

■Engine clock speed: 575-675 MHz
■Processing power (single precision): 920-1080 GigaFLOPS
■Polygon throughput: 575-675M polygons/sec
■Data fetch rate (32-bit): 92-108 billion fetches/sec
■Texel fill rate (bilinear filtered): 23-27 Gigatexels/sec
■Pixel fill rate: 9.2-10.8 Gigapixels/sec
■Anti-aliased pixel fill rate: 36.8-43.2 Gigasamples/sec
■Memory clock speed: 900-1000 MHz
■Memory data rate: 3.6-4.0 Gbps
■Memory bandwidth: 57.6-64 GB/sec

From the looks of it, only 6900 series is an upgrade to 5870.

 

Yes. An 800Mhz GDDR5 chip corresponds to 3.2Gbps.

Lol. They have the audacity to call that a 6970? Mobile cards are falling way behind desktop cards these days. At least the top end card has a 256-bit memory bus again like the mobility 4870 used to.

On the desktop the 6800 series is of similar performance to the 5800 series as well. Not really an upgrade, just a replacement.

 

you would think by this time with such technology they won't run 06 to test this cards but they do

 

yes, as a matter of fact, MR6800 Series is actually slower than MR5870, no doubt about that. MR6900 however, it's in a class of its own.. 256-bit memory bandwidth with GDDR5 gives it 115 GB/sec! the rest is a minor upgrade like stream processors, ROPs etc. that said, it's (almost) impossible for a single MR6970 to score that close to CF MR5870, but still, equally impossible, for a CF MR6970 to score that low compared to CF MR5870.

 

The 6900M appears to be a downclocked desktop 6850. AMD changed their naming scheme with the 6000 cards: the second digit effectively moved down by 1 (i.e. a 6X00 will not necessarily be better than a 5X00).

 

My bad, you are right. Well in that case yes, the maximum GDDR speed would be 900 MHz. I guess, they might be using 1.35V on the memories and underclock them.

 

That 6900 would actually be very formidable as a laptop GPU.....first thing that is impressing me since the 4870m really

I would like to see the GTX 470m or GTX 485m matched against the 6900m (since I have no clue what to expect for the GTX 500m parts)

 

Don't fall for that. The mobility Radeon 4870 from 2 years ago did too, yet somehow the 5870 got away with 128-bit GDDR5.

Look up the specs and compare the closest desktop variants. The desktop variant of the GTX 580M, the GTX 560, is not out yet, but if you connect the dots, it will stay far ahead of the 6970M.

 

3dmark06:

gtx 460m : 12919
gtx 470m : 16562
gtx 480m : 15393
gtx 485m : 19011
gt 540m : 8423
AMD Radeon HD 6970M : 20155

Notebook / Laptop Reviews and News - Notebookcheck.net

 

The GTX 460M, 470M, and 480M are all averages of various scores that Notebookcheck scavenged from across the internet....the GTX 485M score is the average of two runs, one with an i7-2630qm and the other with an i7-2920xm...and the HD6970M core is from some leaked photos without any specifics on if it was a single card score or Crossfire.


Making comparisons based on Notebookcheck's numbers is like trying to figure out what someone ate by looking through their vomit.

 

Add to this the fact that 3dmark06 is ENTIRELY USELESS as a graphics benchmark in 2011, and we have the case that all those numbers are completely useless. In the more than 5 years it came out (I think it came out in '05), hardware has made great advances, and different parts of the system have increased in performance at different rates. 3dmark06 is a fun benchmark if you are into benchmarking, but if you are interested gleaning any information from it you are barking up the wrong tree.

Really the only way to properly test graphics cards is to run them on identical top end systems and record the framerates of modern games with maxed out settings.

 

I left out the 580m because we have absolutely no idea what it will cost. The 485m will be comparable to a GTX 460 1GB most likely (still speculating). The notebook 6900 mentioned above matches a desktop 6850. The 6850 and GTX 460 1GB are pretty closely matched so it will come down to how severely they have to be downclocked to work on a notebook.

 

You seem to be missing one important "dot"; the GTX 560's very high clock speeds. With that many cores, a full GF114 will have to be underclocked dramatically, and yet still won't have much overclocking room compared to the 6970M. Even if that 100W beast does beat the 6970M, it won't be by nearly as much as you think, and certainly not by enough to justify its price and power consumption.

 

The Radeon 6850 is vastly more efficient than the GTX 460. So if there's a nvidia chip for the mobile market with 336 cores it'll have to be severely downclocked or be the successor of the GTX 480M in power consumption too. The GTX 470M features 288 and the core runs at a little above 500mhz, and is already at somewhat of a limit for most notebooks.

 

To say that this mythical GTX 580M will be coming from the GTX 560 is a very bold statement. Be careful with that.