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    Plextor 256GB M.2 VS Samsung XP941

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Dudubrdx, Dec 9, 2014.

  1. Dudubrdx

    Dudubrdx Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey Guys,

    My Clevo reseller is offering me a discount for a plextor SSD, and even though the price is quite interesting, I was all set to order the Samsung XP941.
    Given that I won't be doing any big work on this SSD, who would you rate the plextor Vs Samsung.
    AM thinking of getting the plextor now, and later on ordering the Samsung in maybe 512 format.
     
  2. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Depends the difference in cost. IMO the Samsung is superior in performance and battery life though.
     
  3. Dudubrdx

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    Basically where I live the Samsung is 250 and the plextor is 150.
     
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    Dudubrdx Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, followed your advice and got a 480GB Sandisk extreme pro
     
  6. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Great choice... These M2 SSD's are just ovens now... Maybe 2-3 years down the road when the tech is better it will be worth getting them but for now, best to avoid them like a plague... (Well not as serious of a plague as the Samsung Evo SSD's with TLC memory but still these M2 SSD's should be avoided :D)...
     
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    I dunno. All this hubbub is more "sky is falling". They do run warm if being taxed for a period, but how often do you do large file transfers, especially on a consumer OS drive? And even if you do, that take all of a few seconds. From the Puget Systems video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hhdWwvh5kI) It took 60 seconds to reach 90C, and transferred over 20GB in that time span, and tends to idle and low use in the 35C realm. If you do a lot and frequent large file copies, then sure it might be an issue. Otherwise it's not that big of a deal.
     
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    Sky is falling? I don't think so. At least for notebook/mobile use the warnings are warranted.

    See:
    Samsung XP941 & Plextor PX-G256 M6e M.2 Qualification - Puget Custom Computers


    The article above is the background to the video HTWingNut posted. Desktop system, simply copying files. No; 90C in 60 seconds is not acceptable at all.



    The performance increase possible is not in line with the downsides of turning your notebook into a throttle limited nightmare.

    And before anyone says (again...) that fast SSD's are not used like this constantly? Why else would they be used for (that is their intended purpose, I would think)? 60 seconds to hit these ridiculous temps (90C) and in a couple of minutes more to hit 113C is not worth it for the ~2x increase in performance. And the almost guaranteed failure of these devices after a few times of using them in their intended roles.
     
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    There are rumors of LSI and Marvell coming out with new, more efficient controllers in the near future so hopefully that will allow M.2 drives to run at a more reasonable temperature. Until M.2 drives are able to run cooler, however, we recommend using M.2 slots that are integrated onto a motherboard only if you are able to check the drive temperature to make sure it isn't overheating. Otherwise, we recommend using a M.2 to PCI-E adapter that includes a heatsink like the one we used in our testing. In fact, when using the heatsink the temperature on the Samsung XP941 dropped down from 113 °C to a maximum of about 53 °C which is a much, much safer temperature.

    Enuffsaid?
     
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    For an OS drive there will be frequent small hits to the SSD, but not sustained read/writes, not 20-30GB on a regular basis. Who uses their OS drive to write 100GB multiple times daily? I'm not saying it's perfect, or that it's acceptable for a heavy workload but it's acceptable for a daily MS Office type workload.

    Please tell me what issues I should be seeing and I'll gladly put this XP941 to the test. I've been using it for a few weeks now as an OS drive and nary an issue.
     
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    HTWingNut,

    I appreciate that the workload you use your M.2 SSD doesn't cause you any issues.

    But, there is a difference between using an SSD and (actually) using, one. ;)
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Yeah if using the heatsink works, those temps are fine with me.. Not as cool as my Sandisk but then again 50C is fine.... There should be no performance hit at those temps...
     
  13. HTWingNut

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    Come on Tiller. Just because you can push the pedal all the way to the floor all the time doesn't mean you have to.

    It's weird though, the XP941 128GB in my Samsung ATIV 9 has a temperature sensor but the 256GB in my Clevo does not. In any case, the one my my Samsung notebook runs at 30-32C idle and with file transfers hasn't exceeded 55C. Granted I have no idea where this thermal sensor is located.
     
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