Pls enlighten me on Pata and Sata hdds

So there's pata and sata.

Wanting to buy 1 pata hdd. But mostly all are sata.

Actually, I don't know the differences.

Now I only have 1 pata drive, can't compare with sata drive.

Let's talk about 2.5" sizes..

Isn't the both pata and sata drives the same shape?

My laptop is using pata hdd.

Can't I just buy a sata drive, connect in the mounting plastic(the interface with pins) and plug into my laptop?

Maybe pictures will tell a thousand words..

I tried to search for sata images on the web, but all look same as my pata drive, maybe can some kind souls post some pictures with the pata and sata drives, and circle the differences between these two..

Thanks for reading..

 

No manufacturer I know of sells pata hdds anymore.

It isn't lining up the pins and plugging it in either.

Your best bet is seeking a third party retailer or eBay.

edit:

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Scorpio-Notebook-WD2500BEVE/dp/B000W3RPLC

http://www.google.com/search?q=pata...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

 

Here are some pictures

In this picture, there are two PATA 2.5" drives
The one on the left has the pins exposed
The one on the right is also a PATA drive, it just has a common PATA adaptor over the pins


In this picture, I have a PATA drive with the pins exposed (left), next to a SATA drive (right)- Both are 2.5"


In this picture, I have a 2.5" SATA drive (left) next to a 3.5" 15K SCSI drive (Ultra 320SCSI) (center), next to a 2.5" PATA drive (right)


As you can see, there is a large difference in size between 2.5" and 3.5" drives

What laptop do you have?

K-TRON

 

the connector is different.

But you can buy a pata-to-sata adapter.

 

Wow, I am loss for words..

You guys at nbr are so helpful..

Less than 20 mins, I got my answer..

Thanks all, and have a great day ahead..

 

A compaq V2000

Regards

 

The V2000 uses 2.5" PATA drives
This link may be of help to you:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00444244/c00444244.pdf

I recommend upgrading to the Samsung HM080GC
That is an 80gb 5400rpm drive. - The fastest PATA drive under 100Gb
I do not know if your laptop has a LBA restriction of 137GB. I would be inclined to say it does judging by its age.
Your best upgrading to a drive 120gb and less.
In that case, the Samsung HM080GC is the fastest option
Second to that would be any Hitachi 7K100 PATA drive
Third to that would be the Seagate Momentus 7200.1 PATA drive series

If you install the HM160HC (160gb version of the HM080GC) the system may not even recognize it, so you run a risk buying a drive over 137Gb

Can you download HDTUNE, and upload a image of the "INFO" tab?

K-TRON

 

If willing to sacrifice the optical drive, can also get an optical bay caddy to allow use of a 2.5" sata harddisk. 48bitlab.com has tools to test your system if your bios will allow > 137GB to be seen by your system. If so, then coud install up to a 1TB 12.7mm 2.5" SATA HDD.

Alternative, if the caddy is not suitable consider:

WD3200BEVE : 320GB 2.5" PATA (2 platter/160GB)
WD2500BEVE : 250GB 2.5" PATA (2 platter/125GB)
HM160HC : 160GB 2.5" PATA (1 platter/160GB)
HM120HC : 120GB 2.5" PATA (1 platter/120GB)

 

I actually bought a Pata drive this summer in Germany - in "Saturn".
The WD Scorpio Blue to be exact.

 

I remember new outlets reporting that major manufacturers were no longer making PATA harddrives. So I went with that. Apparently, either they were wrong, I didn't read the article correctly, or these harddrives are just the remaining inventory.

 

Well, in summer the Pata drives were still listed on teh website too.

I wouldn't be surprised though if western digital weren't the only manufacturer left to manufacture PATA drives.

 

I dont know what you guys are talking about. This summer, Western Digital released there WD3200BEVE.
The PATA interface is not dead, and there are many great options readily available such as the Samsung HM series, WD Scorpio's, and the Seagate Momentus drives.
The only drives I classify as hard to find for the PATA interface are the Hitachi 7K100 and Seagate 7200.1 series drives.

K-TRON

 

PATA is not dead.
It is still being manufactured for legacy reasons although the price for PATA is higher.

 

To the best of my knowledge, all SATA HDD's (either 2.5" or 3.5") have the identical connectors/pinouts, so that a laptop's SATA HDD can be installed in a desktop which is designed for SATA drives, and will run as any HDD would in that configuration. Any comments?

 

I don't know about the connector, but wouldn't the size be a minor issue? If you put a 2.5" in your desktop without a 3.5" caddy to hold it, you'd probably have to be pretty careful about vibration or bumping it to prevent dropouts.

 

be aware that it may not fit in a laptop hard drive caddy!

 

If you are running at least XP SP1 or are running the latest bios, this is not an issue whatsoever. If the bios only allows up to 137GB, you can install on that partition and then increase the partition size within windows to encompass the entire drive. Only really ancient hardware will not be able to read up the 137GB, so there is absolutely no problem. Even an old AMD K6-2 setup from '98 could read up to the 137GB. Besides, for any computer that came out in the middle of '05, the manufacturer would be quite irresponsible not to have including 48-bit addressing in the bios from the start.

That's kinda the definition of dead. It has been dying a slow death for the past 6 years. I haven't bought a PATA hard drive since '04, yet I have a couple that are still kicking!

 

My desktop sits atop a substantial table in the corner of my computer room and isn't subject to vibration or bumps. I leave its side panel open to facilitate installing and removing the 2.5" drives. I don't even have to bend to do this. The desktop computer has a lot of empty space inside its case, I just lay the laptop HDD (without any kind of caddy) down inside while doing backups. The fact that the SATA data & power cables are much smaller and more flexible than PATA cables is also helpful. Never had a problem with this.

 

Oh, so you're not actually putting it in a bay, but just laying it down somewhere and running cables to the port. I suppose that's fine if you're not planning on moving it at all, but I have a tendency to shift things around (especially when cleaning) so for me that's not such a good thing.

 

The system BIOS and chipset need to be able to read a high capacity drive 137Gb and greater, the operating system isnt even a part of that
I can think of an example right here on my desk. My Latitude C640 (Pentium 4M) will not read a drive over 137Gb, it is about 7 yrs newer than a K6-2, so youre wrong.
I know in my HM160HC thread, there were quite a few members who posted the drive was not recognized, so your statement is invalid.
I asked the Original Poster to check some values, because I am at least kind enough to make sure that what he buys will work, rather than just saying it will, when it has a chance of not being recognized.

K-TRON

 

Oh jesus dude, windows can partition hard drives in excess of the 137GB limit. You and others mentioned it a billion times in that HM160HC thread.

I said my K6-2 could read "up to 137GB", not "over 137GB."

Wow, two people said the HM160HC drive was not detected, one of whom actually tested the drive in another computer, out of the millions who bought one. On top of that, in those two cases you really don't know why the drive didn't work. One guy just said it didn't work and was never to be seen again, and another just tried it in another contemporaneous Dell in which it worked. None of the many newegg reviews mention anyone not being able to detect an otherwise working drive.

You need some really ancient hardware to not be compatible with "large" hard drives. Any laptop that came out in mid-2005 is going to be able to run it.