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    Possible stupid newbie question: Laptop from scratch?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by The Crazy Player, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. The Crazy Player

    The Crazy Player Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, so I am getting into computer repair, and I have discovered how easy it is to build a kick desktop from scratch for relatively little money (currently taking a $200 desktop and turning it into a $750 desktop), and this leads me to wonder if such is possible with laptop computers.


    In particular (and at the risk of sounding stupid) I have been mostly sold on an ASUS G71X, which will be around $2300 the way I want it. If I can assemble something similar for $500 less, I'd love to do that, but so far all signs are pointing to either "no" or "only with trouble that will make me beg to pay the extra $500 instead."

    Can anyone offer advice?
     
  2. afhstingray

    afhstingray Notebook Prophet

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    you cant, because most of the components are custom made and integrating them into a system is a lot harder. the closest you can come to is a customised order like dell or barebones like sager/compal
     
  3. NAS Ghost

    NAS Ghost Notebook Deity

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    The best you can do is get a barebones laptop; which are few and far between. Barebones means you buy the chassis, and usually install the major components yourself, such as CPU, Ram, Wlan, HDD, and sometimes the GPU.

    Most laptops are made using proprietary components, so upgrading certain things ( like the GPU in the G71 ) can not be done.

    As far as the price, Im not too sure about it, but it believe it would be better for you to buy a full laptop over trying to build one, unless you could find a really good deal on the parts. Mobile parts tend to be quite expensive, and the GPUs seem to easily hit astronomical prices ( it is not uncommon for them to go for $500 or more ).
     
  4. f4ding

    f4ding Laptop Owner

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    You probably can build a Precision M6400 or M4400 that would cost about $500 less than you would get buying from Dell. You can get the parts from eBay.
     
  5. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    Building your own laptop is a possibility, it does take a long time, a lot of skills, and it can become quite expensive

    I have built my own laptop, it is based around a 24" screen, dual processor workstation motherboard, etc.

    Building a laptop is harder than you may think, if you still want to, send me a personal message

    K-TRON
     
  6. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Any chance you have some photos and specs?

    Did you make a thread about it?
    I would really like to hear more about this thing.
     
  7. sirmetman

    sirmetman Notebook Virtuoso

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    You can hold something built with a 24" screen and a desktop mobo on your lap? :) I think that isn't even a DTR, that's a battery powered portable desktop. :)
     
  8. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    sirmetman Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah, to the OP, building a laptop is nothing like "building" a desktop. Building a laptop from scratch means fabricating a frame and doing the engineering work to make everything function correctly.
     
  10. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    yes,
    if i could quantify, probably close to 600hrs over the course of the year.
    You will end up building many prototypes, cause its really hard to get everything perfect. Especially when working with metal.
    I actually modeled mine entirely in Rhinocerous (3D NURBS Modeler)
    But it didnt help much, since everything is subject to change until finalized

    if you cant solder, have little imagination, or do not know how to use tools than do not bother.

    So far I have used:
    An Arbor press
    Vise
    Metal brake Shear
    Tin Snips
    Metal Shears
    Drill,
    Drill bits
    Grinder (15 AMP 9" BOSCH), (8.5AMP 4.5" Milwaukee), and (6.5AMP 4.5" BOSCH)
    Laser cutter
    5 - axis mill
    Drill Press
    Soldering iron,
    Acetylene torch
    Rivet gun
    Lapping stones (Starett 8 Micrometer acurate granit blocks)
    Dremel
    Like 50 cutting wheels for the Dremel
    Safety glasses
    Deburring tools such as metal files
    Hot glue,
    Screwdrivers
    Estwing Hammer
    Ball Peen Hammer for peening and flattening

    I hope I was able to help

    K-TRON
     
  11. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    In short, you have to be rich to build your own laptop from "true" scratch.
     
  12. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    That can be true
    My neighbor is a retired machinist, so I had access to probably close to half a million dollars worth of tools. He literally has twice the shop of what Rensselaer has. He has a great imagination and a serious knowledge of all things metal. He has been a great help.
    As of parts, I havent paid more than $1000 on the OCTI-TRON, actually exactly $971.37 Plus 600 hours of time, and lots of cuts I got.
    If you do build your own, please wear pants when using the grinder.
    I was wearing shorts, and the metal dust from the 9" 6000rpm BOSCH grinder I have, is extremely hot, which made a ton of burn marks on my legs. Its been about 2 months, and they are almost gone. The warm metal sparks do feel good, before the skin burns

    K-TRON
     
  13. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    I wish I had such a knowledgeable and resourceful neighbor. You made me frown, K-TRON.
     
  14. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    well it is not worth the time and effort to build ur own laptop unless u have a lot of time on hand... the best thing that the OP can do is to buy a barebones laptops and buy the parts seperately and add them
     
  15. ettornio

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    You should look up "RJTech" for a barebones laptop (Clevo). I mean, if you are wanting to build a laptop in the same manner as desktop (buy case, add components yourself), then that is the way to go.
     
  16. afhstingray

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    well there are all these exceptions like the "octi-tron" but the the bottom line is, unless you're willing to take extreme measures, you cant build a laptop from scratch the same way you can easily build a desktop. closest you can come to is the barebones like clevo/sager/compal etc