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    Processor Problem?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by rascalking, Aug 23, 2009.

  1. rascalking

    rascalking Notebook Guru

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    Hey everyone. I have a pretty strange problem with my computer and I'm not quite sure where its stemming from. Basically, I got this computer about a year ago and loved it. However, I've purchased a few games since then and I've begun to notice a reoccurring problem with pretty much any game. I used to think it was because of the game itself, but now I've noticed it pretty much happens in any game I play. The problem is this: About every 2 mins or so during gameplay (regardless of high or low settings) I get HORRIBLE graphic slowdown/frame rate lag/stuttering for about 15-20 seconds, during which it can be completely unplayable. On some other games the slowdown happens, but isn't has noticeable as others. The ONLY way to fix this (if this really is a fix) is to go "task manager", highlight the game in question, go to "Set Affinity" and disabling one of the cpu's. Though this does the trick most of the time, I'm still not satisfied with this as the solution, as I'm sacrificing my other cpu.

    So, what do you guys think? Whats busted? What needs fixing? Do I need a new CPU?

    Thanks


    Specs:
    dv7
    9600mgt
    3.0 gb ram
    T5800 2.0 cpu.
     
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    rascalking Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the reply, however I've changed the drivers about 6 times and though some things will be different, that reoccurring slowdown will still always be there....
     
  4. Jasp

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    As above sounds more video related or power plan, make sure your power plan is not set to power saver if you are running vista or windows 7. Also use a program such as HWmonitor to monitor temps while playing, could be your GFX/cpu is downclocking itself due to heat.

    http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php
     
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    i guess the easiest thing to do is call hp and send it for a RMA. back up you important stuff if you do
     
  6. rascalking

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    Temps usually stay the same. Maybe this video will help you guys see whats happening

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05KTxlF2oQ8
     
  7. Jasp

    Jasp Notebook Evangelist

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    What temps are you getting, check both when idle doing nout then play a round of something and list the max temp here. The temps should change quite a bit when gaming, eg my gfx card goes from 50c to 83c.
     
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    That driver doesn't seem to work well with my card. I just installed it and doing anything on my computer results in massive screen tearing and all videos go at about half the speed. I'm gonna revert back..

    Also, in regards to the temp, my gpu idle is at 65 c and during gaming its about 77c. I don't get how it would be the gpu though. If thats the case, why does disabling a processor through "set affinity" fix things?
     
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    Could be the CPU not the GPU, if your only loading 1 core of the processor you only using half its power so would result in less temps, as mentioned also check your power plan to make sure its not on power saver as this causes a massive drop in performance.
     
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    Northbridge overheating?
     
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    T5800 is a weak processor and when playing the game it must be having both cores being used at 100% causing the lagg. it not a GPU and a driver problem. It the CPU for sure? Why didn't u spend some more cash and buy a proper cpu when you bought the laptop?
     
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    Are you saying it used to not happen with the SAME games and now it does??
     
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    since you have to do something from task manager to the CPU i guess it a CPU problem. There should be no prob with the GPU as ur using the latest drivers just like me and i have no problems. It must be a CPU problem. If u have a spare CPU replace the T5800 with it and test out. Otherwise send it to HP to be repaired.... if u have warranty....
     
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    Yeah, I think so too. Though I must admit that my laptop stays rather hot all the time, being at 67c when idle but only jumping to about 75 when gaming.

    But the fact that disabling a CPU makes gaming better must meen its a processor problem.

    Anyone have any other guesses? Just kinda wanna be pretty sure its the cpu if I'm gonna shell out the money for a new one.
     
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    Thought I'd give the thread another try...
     
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    like i said , u might have a faulty processor. If u had warranty still, send it to hp to repair. Otherwise go to a local computer shop, and have them test ur processor and if there's a problem, have them replace it with a new and better one. Otherwise u can buy a new processor of e bay or amazon and if i were u, i'd get a P series processor, possibly a P9700, which costs $350 , or even a P9500 which costs less and would give less heat and way more performance than T5800. You might also have a defective chipset or something so have it repaired ASAP before u get more problems.
     
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    rascalking, did you not read my post? Did it used to happen before or is it only recently you have played those games and noticed you have a problem?
     
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    Like some one said here, it can be any background progsess wich is eating up your CPU. Is your HDD use high when this happens?
     
  19. rascalking

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    Hey guys, back again :(. Alright.... I'm kinda at wits end here. Before splurging for the processor, I took my comp. to a local computer repair shop and paid 150 for complete diagnosis. The result?.......nada. He couldn't find anything wrong.

    If I knew for sure that the processor was the problem, I would buy a new one without thinking twice. However, I can't tell you how unbelievably insane I would be if I shell out funds for a new processor and the problems persists.

    I really don't know what to do. All I know is that the only way to somewhat solve my problems (which is the frequent random lag/stuttering in games followed by regaining itself) is to turn off a cpu core through processor affinity. Other then that, nada.

    If any of you pro's out there (preferably ones with high rep status and post count) are up for tinkering with this thing and figuring out whats wrong, I'd happily compensate you for it. I just can't deal with it anymore......its in every freakin game.

    Once again, here's a video of my problem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05KTxlF2oQ8

    If you want, I'll take more videos....as many as you guys like. Just for god's sake, someone help me fix this sucker!!!
     
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    Bumping posts
     
  21. 2un@

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    This i saw for hdx18 with issues...maybe worth a look into.
    Page 3....3 post down
    http://h30434.www3.hp.com/psg/board/message?board.id=Hardware&thread.id=15857&page=3

    I think i found the solution to this. It is silly, but it worked for me ( and continues to work ) . You would THINK tech support would come up with this but, if you go to Control Panel --> Nvidia Control Panel --> Global settings set MULTI-DISPLAY/MIXED-GPU ACCELERATION to COMPATIBILITY PERFORMANCE MODE When i was looking though these settings mine was set to multiple display performance mode.

    I did this, and I cranked the graphics to WoW waaay up, and duel boxed it for 6+ hours with no power off issues, and now ive been running it the same way again for 6 + more hours, no power off issues.
    Hope this helps you guys out too! GL!
     
  22. rascalking

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    Well, Left 4 Dead was the first game I got with this system back in 08, so it was the first game I noticed it on. Some games it isn't as obvious, the gameplay will just sometimes slow down, but left 4 dead has it the worst. And considering the fact that there video clips out there that showcase comps. with lower hardware then mine that run the game fluently, makes me think its something specific with my comp.

    As for the northbridge, i mentioned it to the repair guy and he didn't think so.....but i guess im not 100% sure.

    As for the person who replied above me, I think you posted in the wrong forum or something cause that has nothing to do with my problem.
     
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    yeah guess its impossible it could be the same thing :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm not trying to be rude, but my computer has no issues with powering off randomly...
     
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    Yes but if the Nvidia Control panel has something set to something it shouldn't be it COULD be causing your problem/NO?
     
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    Tried what you suggested but it doesn't make a difference.
     
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    1)Do u have 3dmark06 does it do it running that? OR does it show bad results on CPU...If no problems there could it be to do with your cd/dvd drive not reading properly?.

    2)If the game/s are using the disc what about copying to hard drive and mount it on a virtual drive and see if its doing the same,that would at least rule the above out of the equation.
     
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    3dmark seems okay, but the game runs through steam.
     
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    All this problem are on steam games??
     
  30. rascalking

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    No, its on just about every game.
     
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    If you google "Steam games stuttering" there's alot issues & things to try.
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=steam+games+stuttering

    You need to rule out it's not just a steam issue...

    With a game that gives you problems that you use a CD for try copying the game to your hard drive and mounting it with a virtual drive and see if it still does it.
     
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    Its with any games, some games are just less obvious. I just played NHL 10 and while the you don't see obvious framrate drops, the games moves VERY slow (unless i disable a cpu core through processor affinity)