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    QX9300 vs. Q9100 vs. X9100

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by w4j3d, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. w4j3d

    w4j3d Notebook Consultant

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    QX9300 should be definitely the best in performance, but:-

    1) How do I know my notebook will support any of these CPUs? I have a C2D 2.5Ghz/2MB L2 in a Vostro 1510.

    2) How will I benefit from the extreme processors? I think they are unlocked, but could my notebook be a limitation?

    If heat is the only issue, I can highly decrease it. And the TDPs I see are the same as my processor's.
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Doesn't the 1510 have an intel PM/GM965 chipset?
    Because if it does, you can't use any CPU with a 1066mhz FSB. So no QX9300/Q9100/X9100 for you...sorry. X9000 should work.
     
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  3. w4j3d

    w4j3d Notebook Consultant

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    LOL, I wanted to have that Quad Core.. but X9000 is better for me. Thank you.

    Will I be able to mod it? (oc it) And can I OC my T9300?
     
    w4j3d, Mar 10, 2011
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    What's the performance difference between the QX9300 and 720QM?
     
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    On 3-4 cores, the QX9300 will be better, they're probably about even on 2 cores with the i7-720QM at maximum turbo-boost, and the i7-720QM will pull ahead on a single core with maximum turbo-boost.
     
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    Of course the QX9300 can be overclocked =)

    Dells are usually locked down so I doubt you can overclock it without some hardware mods. X9000 can be overclocked in software however.
     
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    Sure, but you're comparing a $1038 part (release price) to a $364 (release price) part. You have to get _some_ sort of advantage for that extra price. :D
     
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    And mine cost less than each of those :D
     
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    Yup the X9000 is the best CPU you can use. What do you plan on doing with your notebook? the T9300 is still a good CPU for most tasks.
     
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    No matter what the PLL is? If yes, I'll be one of these happiest people in the universe. Well, not that much but yeah close to that :D

    I already have the T9300 for 2 years now. It is not my bottleneck, but I would love to have even more performance. Being able to .2Ghz to .5Ghz OC it when needed is good! I can underclock it when preferred, and OC it when neeeded.
     
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    Aren't X9000 still super crazy expensive? Wouldn't a X7800/X7900 be a more cost effective solution (they are like 89-110 used, like 120+ new on Fleabay).
     
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    X7800 and X7900 also run warmer and may not be faster than his T9300 at clock speeds, especially the X7800.
     
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    Right...but they have unlocked multipliers so it'd be a bit easier to overclock. X9000 doesn't have much more but 2 MB of L2 cache....not worth triple/quadruple the cost.
     
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    It is when you consider how much cooler/faster Penryns run as compared to Meroms.
     
    Sirhcz0r, Mar 11, 2011
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    My T9300 has 6MB L2 cache.

    Yes, X9000 is really expensive. X9100s are much cheaper. I saw X9100 prices and assumed at first that X9000 would be cheaper.
    Now I'm thinking of what I can do!
    What would happen if I put the X9100 in my mobo? they have the same socket number.

    EDIT: I'm talking about ebay prices.
    And, can anybody tell me if OCing will work on the X9100/X9000 (Using throttlestop) no matter what PLL I have?
     
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    Unlocked multipliers won't help if

    1) Your laptop overheats [and the X-CPUs already run warmer as it is, particularly the Merom chips when compared to the Penryn (T9300/X9000 chips)]

    2) The T9300 is better optimised and can obtain equivalent results at a lower or similar clockspeed.

    I'm not sure how well the Vostro 1510s dissipate heat, but most of the users of the FX-series didn't go with the X7800 due to its poorer or similar performance to the T9300 with higher temps at stock clocks. Needless to say, OC drove the temps higher.

    @OP - X9100 won't work.
     
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    X9100 doesn't work. X9000 is expensive. I'll stick with my T9300, it is free. Will a pin-mod work for me? I have Vostro 1510, T9300. If PLL number is needed I'll open the notebook and get it.
     
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    A PLL pinmod could work, do need to know what PLL you have.
     
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    Sorry, I had to ask you to also press "getfsb".
    Otherwise there is no info.
     
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    I understand now X9000 allows me to OC without mods, but it's too expensive for me, I could even buy a new mobo+X9100 for the same price range, but not worth it in my opinion, specially that I may get scammed on ebay. So I hope hardware mods do work for me.
     
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    I can see 2 options.

    First option would be to pull pin 57 low.
    From your pic it looks like this would be hard, but would give you a 266mhz FSB.

    Second option would be to pull pin 4 low.
    So you could do something like this (Stage 2):
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...ebook-2530p-owners-lounge-10.html#post7121833

    But you would do that to pin4 (not pin14).

    Another option would be just to remove the resistor that is connected to pin4. This has a chance of working.

    If you pull pin4 low, TME should be disabled. Then you might be able to overclock with setfsb or setpll.
     
    moral hazard, Mar 12, 2011
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    Would the x9100 not just downclock it's FSB to 800MHz in order to run?
     
    narffdaddy, Mar 22, 2011
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  28. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    no, they are 2 completely different chips...
     
    whitrzac, Mar 22, 2011
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    Funny that this is possible now with pinmod when no one knew about it 9 months ago.
     
    niffcreature, Dec 8, 2011
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    Hey,did you manage to successfully overclock your Vostro 1510 using the pinmod?
     
    SunnyChrono6, Mar 22, 2012
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