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    RAM e HDD setup for editing video

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by aronaga, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. aronaga

    aronaga Newbie

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    Dear all,
    I think I will go to get this Clevo for my editing video.
    Now I have to choose the best setup for RAM and HHD.

    Just to better understand how is the notebook inside I post this video:


    Regarding editing video and not for gaming, I put forward some doubts.

    1. What is the influence to have 32 GB on RAM instead of 16 GB RM (reccomended)
    2. Now the reccomended RAM is at 1600 MHz, what about 1866 MHz or better 2133 MHz? Watching some video on youtube it looks like the difference of frequencies is slight. Right or not?

    Many people suggest to have the following setup for editing video laptop.
    -2 x SSD 7mm in RAID 0 (for OS and software) and HHD 7200 rpm or HHD external connected through Thunderbolt (I don't have it) or USB 3.0 (for big files archive). Are you agree?

    I read FAQ from seller and only for OS I understood:
    2 x SSD 7mm in RAID 0/1 or 1 x SSD PCIe x4 interface like Samsung XP941 (in this notebook the function of boot and UEFI is supported)

    I assume to place in 1 Samsung XP941 (256 og 512 GB) for OS (best choise for speed :D but not for wallet :( ).
    What can you suggest me for archiving big files?
    Should I go to HHD internal or UBS 3.0 external?
    For internal, which speed? 7200/5400/5400 Hybrid?
    Ever in youtbue I have watched a nice presentation where it show all in all the 5400 rpm is almost the same to 7200. Right?

    Thanks!
     
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  2. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    my clevo is 2 years old and still breezes through video editing and rendering using cyberlink power director 12

    as you dont want gaming i would suggest base quad core, 16gb ram, internal ssd is a must and either another internal spindle drive 7200rpm for storage but if you get a 512 ssd then thats plenty for you for now.
    ive only got 100gb space left on my 512 ssd and also got about 9 games loaded so as you wont be gaming you should have plenty of space.

    also clevos are user upgradable so you can add more ram and change drives yourself later down the road.
    not sure which graphics card to go for though unless you tell us what else you will be doing with the laptop or is it purely for video editing.
     
  3. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    I would suggest the i7-4790K, 16GB RAM, 980M, get a SSD (2.5" 7mm one) and 1TB 7mm HDD and you'll be sorted... It should be perfect for all your needs...
     
  4. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    Regarding the amount of RAM you want, it all depend son what you do in terms of editing. Unless you are editing large projects and make a living out of it, you likely won't need 32 GB of RAM and even if you end up needing 32 GB, the good news is that it's easy to add more. You could do a quick evaluation of your RAM needs if you can reproduce the kind of workload you intend to do on the laptop on another computer and monitor RAM usage.

    Ask most people who rock 32 GB of RAM and either they had a lot cash to drop on RAM or like me, they have a use case for it.
     
  5. aronaga

    aronaga Newbie

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    For now this clevo (I will get it from Germany) it's available only with i7 4720HQ. They made a previous version with i7 4870HQ but it got some heating issue. I asked to seller about the i7 4980HQ, he told me that there is no future plane to deliver this notebook with bigger processor. Since I can get it only (I'm in business trip right now) at the beginning of March, maybe in next month something could be changed or there will be another notebook to get :rolleyes:

    My purpose is make editing of photos and videos, maybe I can use also for gaming sometime.... I have ps3 and I don't use so much :eek:

    About thd gpu I'm going to gtx 980.

    Thanks for all suggestions, for now I will set up 16 MB 1600 MHz, in future I will update if I really need.
    About HDD, for OS and software I will use a SSD pci e 4x (512 or 256) for storage file i could use 1T 7200 like 7K1000 or put two 1T slim 5400 in RAID 1 (should be a good speed improvement set up in RAID 0, also the seller think it's is bad idea :p :cool: )
     
  6. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Convenience. You can preview more of your time line. But more importantly, it allows for multitasking. In reality, its for heavy duty editing tasks.
    Right. It is insignificant in editing.
    See below.
    See below.
    7200 or faster.
    Wrong!
    You're welcome. :)
    Yes, RAID 0 is not recommended; you need redundancy in editing. Unless you have 3 drives (OS, media, storage) make your storage external.
     
  7. aronaga

    aronaga Newbie

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    What did you mean with "media"? :confused:. Maybe the HHD where I export the job from, for example, premiere?

    So to avoiding external HHD, I should put, one fast drive for windows and general software (photoshop, premiere, etc.) (could be m2 SSD), one for media (I think should be fast, like some SSD) and the last one for storage (HHD 7200 or 5400).
     
  8. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Editing performance:

    First is the actual editing part this is loaded into RAM for preview usually so you want a good amount of RAM.
    16GB should be much more than adequate. If you were in the 32GB RAM arena you would be looking at a big editing desktop not a laptop :)

    CPU is for the most part pushing everything behind the scenes. Its rendering your effects, its rendering the video, its super important. However I say "for the most part" because GPU acceleration is a real thing now. While I personally still go for a fast CPU some software has GPU acceleration but I do not feel its far enough along that I would put all my eggs in that basket as it may be limited to what codec you render too, or what effects your applying to the video.

    HDD is going to be the storage of the files, You want a good size disk and good speed on it. How much of an impact it has on your workflow really depends on your content. Is it uncompressed where a single 10Min cliis over 100GB? Your going to need a fast drive and a ton of space. Are you rendering CRF 18 H264 1080P then the CPU is going to be slower than your disk and it wont bottleneck anything.

    Best practice IMO is to have the source data on one drive and then render it to another disk this way your splitting the duty and not asking the same drive to read and write the data at the same time. This wont be a big deal for a SSD but it really matters for mechanical HDDs.

    Dont forget screen :) if your into high level editing your going to want a high quality IPS screen that is color calibrated.

    If there is one thing I can tell you to not worry about, that would be RAM speed, that is not important. Even in RAM benchmarks it makes little difference but in real life work like this you wont notice at all.
     
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  9. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Media refers to your assets: the collection of video takes, clips, stills, photos, graphics, sequences, etc. you use to put together and create your project.
    Yes, that is one method. However, it is always advised to have an external HDD to serve as backup.


    Most of the rest of the details have been summarized here quite nicely. However, for a more detailed explanation of choosing a mobile workstation you might wont to peruse the following guide:

    Mobile Workstation Buyer's Guide | Videomaker.com

    Good luck.